Kryll Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 No doubt I CARE BEACUSE YOU DO - most trippy true He is electronic genius, and completely non comparable to Autechre, since they are both highly prolific artists in IDM scene, the ones that defined the genre, so none of them are actually better than another, only as good. Rephlex defined the "genre", which is co-owned by Aphex T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 true Rephlex defined the "genre", which is co-owned by Aphex T. What nonsense! First of all, I am not sure what "genre" you are talking about. Rephlex themselves have quite a wide variety of styles. Rephlex did came up with a term, "Braindance", as a catchall for their music (and as an alternative to the equally ludicrous "IDM" term), but nobody ever took that seriously. There were other labels putting out very influential electronic music in the 1990s. In fact, one of them, Warp (which also released Aphex Twin's output, as well as Autechre), easily eclipsed Rephlex. Pedro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time_Trap Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 What nonsense! First of all, I am not sure what "genre" you are talking about. Rephlex themselves have quite a wide variety of styles. Rephlex did came up with a term, "Braindance", as a catchall for their music (and as an alternative to the equally ludicrous "IDM" term), but nobody ever took that seriously. I consider Braindance a pretty good term actually. IDM is accused of being arrogant, because of the I , but that's what i mostly use to define idm'ish music anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 I consider Braindance a pretty good term actually. IDM is accused of being arrogant, because of the I , but that's what i mostly use to define idm'ish music anyways. Both terms are off-target and really not needed. IDM is more of an American expression anyway. Pedro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwang Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 The Come to Daddy mini album and the Ventolin EP are the only things that really grabbed me by Aphex (in the case of the latter, the B-sides are way better than the A-side). Though I haven't heard 26 mixes for cash which people here evidently think is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryll Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 What nonsense!say what ? i dont consider IDM a genre (hence the brackets) and yes, the term IDM had something to do with Aphex Twin's label at that time what the hell are you talking about ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 say what ? i dont consider IDM a genre (hence the brackets) and yes, the term IDM had something to do with Aphex Twin's label at that time what the hell are you talking about ? I was responding to your comment that "Rephlex defined the 'genre' ". There might some semantic confusion here. One thing is to say that Rephlex made music that people would define as IDM. Which I have no issue with (although I hate the IDM term which I find lazy, inaccurate and pretentious). But I am reading your comment as saying that Rephlex was the label that defined the genre - which I disagree. Pedro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Matta Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I'd also say he's overrated. Sort of like Posford. It seems every genre has to arbitrarily name a king so that those without ears have something to flock around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmiwinks Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I'd also say he's overrated. Sort of like Posford. It seems every genre has to arbitrarily name a king so that those without ears have something to flock around. hehe yeah I get what you mean but the question is just how do those artists become gods in the first place? Surely something else is involved than pure chance? IMO it is some secret conspiracy between underground UK lables Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmiwinks Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 [edit: double post, sorry] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caffein:me Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I'd also say he's overrated. Sort of like Posford. It seems every genre has to arbitrarily name a king so that those without ears have something to flock around. Name another who makes the same kind of music as Aphex Twin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p(sy)ayam Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Name another who makes the same kind of music as Aphex Twin. you mean IDM, IDM/ambient, ambient?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caffein:me Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 you mean IDM, IDM/ambient, ambient?! Just the same kind of music. Not per Genre as you perceive it, but what i meant was a similar artist. E: I don't believe Autechre counts - Its not in no way comparable, i mean. Listen to 26 mixes for cash. find anything like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p(sy)ayam Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 i don't understand what you mean by similar artist but i do know many IDM, IDM/ambient artists which i prefer to aphex twin music... not necessarily same music though, but that's the point! i don't like his kindda music!! (not to the point i consider him the best, or among the best) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwang Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I'd also say he's overrated. Sort of like Posford. It seems every genre has to arbitrarily name a king so that those without ears have something to flock around. I'd agree but, as Lemmi points out, there has to be some reason why he got to his position in the first place. Maybe you had to be there when his early stuff was released to appreciate it, I only got into his work in the late 90's and most of his back catalogue sounds like amateurish techno-wanking to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I do think Aphex Twin does deserve the accolades, although some of the adulation may be blown out of proportion (we all need a hero). While some may not have enjoyed the drill 'n' bass from Richard James Album nor the Firestarter piss-take which the Come To Daddy track was, Aphex's entire body of work as a whole is still impressive. And 26 Mixes For Cash is the best remix album I have heard so far (although several of the remixes are so different from the originals that they are really new tracks). Pedro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exotic Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85-92 Remastered 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffymushi Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85-92 Remastered 2008 thanks for the heads-up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panda-hugger Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 thanks for the heads-up indeet. me wants :posford: pretty amazing innovator RDJ. he was making his own analogue synths and other gear from a very early age i think. the music from SAW 1 dates from '85 when he was 12 or 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psytones Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 ^If anything the man was hugly famuse for being early on making drill'n'bass music or braindance / IDM music. He made his own sound sources, his own synths. Firestarter piss-take which the Come To Daddy track was Are you claiming that CtD was a piss-take on the Firestarter/Breath sound of Prodigy? Or you personally think so.. Or what do you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seraph Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85-92 Remastered 2008 Delicioso... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time_Trap Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 why is the Remastered edition so much worth if u have the original already... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffymushi Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 why is the Remastered edition so much worth if u have the original already...my original is 8 years old & fully worn out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time_Trap Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Ok i c the point. I am talking in terms of music only, i have it in mp3s anyways. (BTW SAW 2 is better IMO) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psytones Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 New did get to listen to SAW (saw, hehe) 2. Looks like a ,,warmer" album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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