Guest Tripster Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 I decided to tell you the following things about how I feel about psytrance nowadays (might be really boring) cause I kinda need to share it with people like you who know it better than anyone else... I've been very disappointed by the psytrance released nowadays even though I don't buy a lot of CD's (don't get me wrong i don't use mp3's). So when I saw your enthiousastic reviews about Unusual Suspects, Emergence (Nano Rec.), Vibraspirit 23, I was really surprised because I found them cold and hard, even though I like them now. Actually, I think I'm starting to understand...) What seduced me, hooked me to the point it became like a drug to me, was the "spirit", this unexplainable feeling I have when I listen to Hallucinogen or others. I can't fight this feeling that today something is gone. I was really crazy about this music but today's sound isn't enough for me. I think the reason for that is it's pure party sound(sometimes deigned for outdoor) . The thing is I don't go often to parties (partly cause noone around me listens to psytrance), so I discovered this music at home and still listen too it a lot at home. But "recent" releases (after 97) can't me trip like old stuff, I must put the sound so loud to have a party feeling... I may seem very pathetic but I'm really sad about this cause I'm kinda in love with this music. No music did this to me before. It's all about experiences, mental and mystical experiences. Now I found the music to be hard and "dark" like other people said in the review section. I just bought the Odyssey CD by Juno Reactor (for those who don't know it's a kind of a best of their tracks from 1992 to 2002) and this is really what I love about Goa/Psy trance: you know, you put your head phones in the dark and you just let the music be your guide. My questions are : do some people feel like me or undestand my feelings? and is there some music released that fits to my tastes ? Thanks to those who read till the end ) And sorry for the dramatic tone:) Peace! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest aricz Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 Well, it's quite easy (yeah sure hehe), today's psytrance isn't 1% as spiritual, dreamy, happy, good-vibes, colorfull spaced out as it used to be. Don't get me wrong, i love the music getting released today, but it just doesn't give me DREAMS, HOPE and HAPPINESS. and music with the same spirit today.... uhm, can't think of any. perhaps astral projection's new. but, err... just listen to hallucinogen - the lone deranger and forget about todays releases:P peace out man! booooooom and, try SynSun (search on google, 'Synsun'+"mp3"). Really good, goaspirit all the way. Yes, they release their music for free. peace'n'love! m/oOo_OoOm/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Basilisk Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 I'm with you... after years of being troubled by the general lack of spirit I chose to put my time on the line and do something about it... a bunch of friends and myself have pitched in and we're doing what we can to bring back the classic sound in our area... why not try the same in yours! Our little label had a first release already - a nice 12" from CHI-A.D. Now we're hard at work compiling a CD and working on our web page to make it a nice vehicle for giving away free MP3s as well... after all, our concern isn't to make any money, but rather to spread some good vibes, so why restrict ourselves to only physical products? Come pay us a visit if you like - you're sure to find more like-minded individuals in our online community... Our site: www.ektoplazm.com Enjoy the free sounds.. Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Matta Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 Good work, basilisk. I agree. Spent much of the past week listening to some older Astral Projection and wishing there was more of that sort of thing these days. I had the exact same experience as Tripster. I was originally hooked by Astral Projection, Juno Reactor, Pleiadians and other stuff from 94-98 and have spent a few years trying to relive that initial high, but with little success. I've resorted to buying less new stuff and more old stuff (the little there is), which works to an extent, but it would still be nice to have some of that spirit in the new music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fugelpitch Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 I fully agree.. The only "recent" albums I've enjoyed is electric universe and fractal glider. And I love the botfb sound. I don't buy anything new anymore just 2nd hand. I don't enjoy parties that much either because I find myself thinking "what's the good thing about this song except it's psy?" nothing. And I don't really like the UV trend going on in sweden. There's a sort of elitism here that's quite annoing. It's like the more UV you've got the more trance you are... I love gnotr, juno reactor, old quirk, transwave and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eric JAOUEN Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 Hey tripster, j'ai le même sentiment que toi concernant la psytrance actuelle mais y a des artistes qui conservent l'esprit psyche : spacetribe, notamment le dernier album "heartbeat" et ts les autres devraient te plaire. T'as aussi toidoi, le meilleur francais à mon avis, style plus récent (basse différentes plus rapide) mais mélodique et super psyche, il vient de sortir "Sustentator" sur son label www.e-watt-records.com/order son premier album technologique était magnifique. I have the same feeling as tripster concerning today's psytrance but there are some artists that still do music with the old psy feeling : everything space tribe (even latest) is great ! Toidoi is also great in a more recent style but still melodic and has a new album out : sustentator on www.e-watt-records.com/order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tripster Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 Thanks a lot guys )) I feel much better! It's really nice to see I'm not the only one to sometimes wonder why I still listen to psy...because it's psy ) No, seriously, it's really too bad cause this music has so much potential! It could be more...phosphorescent! (reference to my favourite comp) Basilisk: I have no DJ skills but I already mixed Cd's (waiting for the end of tracks and so on ) at a party with some friends. But it was not a succes cause nobody danced except for Psycho and Salvia Divinorum (they still have good tastes:) BUT I'm gonna do it again this summer and this time it's gonna a nice track selection (I think about it all the time). It's one of my deepest dream to make people dance on my favourite tracks, look at them going crazy, especially if they don't know this music. By the way I'll check your site and the Chi-ad tracks. Thanks! Eric: hehe, I was surprised to see a message in French! Thanks a lot for your advices... I've got Shapeshifter already and I like it a lot so I'll try Heartbeat when I'll have the money. About Toi-Doi even if he makes crazy tunes it still lets me kinda cold. Anyway, thanks a lot for your answer ) So cool to have some feedback from all over the world !!! Keep writing forumers!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest phaeton Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 i can only partially agree with you guys .. i have grown very bored with most psy being released these days as well, but i personally don't care too much for the classic goa sound anymore either. that is, i still love good old koxbox, orichalcum, hallucinogen, crop circles, et al but i really can't be bothered by the albums being released today by say, electric universe, space tribe or astral projection. i simply feel that this sound has had its time and there is no point in trying to imitate it anymore now .. in the meantime, i _do_ sense that there is a kind of psychedelic renaissance going on, bringing back the soul into psytrance and ditching the formulaic mentality that has spoiled it for so many people. you just have to keep your ears open .. a great example of this is the 'round 1' album by eraser vs yöjalka, which blends elements of classic goa with an incredible funkyness, frenetic noises, breakbeats, epic fairytale-esque atmospheres and a very refreshing sense of humour. for me it is the ultimate proof that there are still artists in this scene who realize that styles are invented for classification and not as a cause of artistic expression itself. i'd also urge any sceptics of contemporary psy to look out for the danish lunatic posse of grapes of wrath, meteloids, the vicious spiral, alrune, etc .. perhaps this is not as suitable for home listening, but there has hardly ever been any more intelligent and humorous dancefloor music around imo .. and last but not least, i am grateful to all the uninspiring tipworld/3dvision copycats for making me discover so many new styles of music. i would've not believed anyone telling me that i would ever consider classical music more psychedelic and mindblowing than psytrance a few years ago, but i'm pretty sure i do now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeff Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 100% agree with you mate. I could have written your message word for word ! I think that it's this feeling of disappointment which leads me to write a summarizing article on Goa Trance, especially its roots. It's a way to subconsciously revive the old vibe, since as phaeton said it, "this sound has had its time and there is no point in trying to imitate it anymore now". btw, since you're French, you probably know the site "goa-trance.com". Actually I don't feel at ease on their forum, since for most of the people speaking there, a psy record cannot be good if it's not a "Dancefloor killer". What about the psychedelic weirdness, the spirit about which you talked ?? Every "Scooter" track is a dancefloor killer, that's not an appropriate criterion for me. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eric JAOUEN Posted April 10, 2003 Share Posted April 10, 2003 Tripster : where did you buy juno reactor odyssey cd and for which cost ? thanks, I want to buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Quazzi Posted April 10, 2003 Share Posted April 10, 2003 It's available on trancetrax eric. www.trancetrax.com Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bahamut Posted April 10, 2003 Share Posted April 10, 2003 Maybe you should explore other styles of (electronic) music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Matta Posted April 11, 2003 Share Posted April 11, 2003 A decent point, Bahamut. Here's my perspective: When I got into electronic music, I became attached to various kinds including fast, complicated, aggressive 4/4 dance music like some System 7 and Empirion. I had the feeling, though, that there must be more of it, and much better, out there. So when I first heard psytrance, I thought, "I've arrived. This is exactly what I've been looking for for so long." So I listened to the stuff that was good at the time - old school stuff. But I got interested at a time when minimal stuff was just beginning to come out and I've been more or less frustrated ever since. Tech trance was a nice surprise, but I can only listen to so much of that. I want that those feelings I had with my original psytrance discoveries back. I know it's possible. Fractal Glider did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bahamut Posted April 11, 2003 Share Posted April 11, 2003 "So when I first heard psytrance, I thought, "I've arrived. This is exactly what I've been looking for for so long."" I had exactly the same feelings when I discovered psytrance. Psytrance is what got me really interested in electronic music. But since then I have discovered so much more! Ambient is definately my new passion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest maxijazz Posted April 14, 2003 Share Posted April 14, 2003 i feel like you, yes. after the 'death' of goa i have explored further and found some of the newer genres quite cool. but, as you all know, every style of music has its own feelings, and i miss is the feeling goa gave me. most people have found new music to listen to, witch they now are satisfied with and can really get happy and get full of energy when listening to, but i promise you, tripster, they would be happier, and get even more full of energy, if it was goa they listened to dont get me all wrong please, cause i absolutely looove many releases from the last five or so years, but it wouldnt hurt if the old style was produced in some extent too. i dont buy the crap that "the scene would have died if it hadnt evolved" and so on.. why didnt some give it a try.. i mean.. its not like we are out of melodies. geniuses can create new if they try really hard 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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