bADASSwhale Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 If you have EAC (with proper configuration) and some Asia 2001 CDs, please rip it (a couple of the separate tracks or CD image) just to get the CRCs from it. You should probably include the top of the log file so we know the settings are right.... It would be interesting to see if they match. I think it's the last thing a bootlegger would worry about faking, and then it wouldn't really matter any more. Recently my friend got Asia 2001 - Live CD and his CRC values were different from mine. (I don't completely trust his values though.) If you do this, please also say if you got your CD recently or had it for a long time. Here is some of my results. ASIA 2001 - LIVE (old cd) TOC of the extracted CD Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector --------------------------------------------------------- 1 | 0:00.00 | 7:39.60 | 0 | 34484 2 | 7:39.60 | 8:20.05 | 34485 | 71989 3 | 15:59.65 | 10:18.33 | 71990 | 118372 4 | 26:18.23 | 8:29.37 | 118373 | 156584 5 | 34:47.60 | 8:12.68 | 156585 | 193552 6 | 43:00.53 | 7:36.40 | 193553 | 227792 7 | 50:37.18 | 8:48.37 | 227793 | 267429 8 | 59:25.55 | 10:51.05 | 267430 | 316259 Range status and errors Selected range Filename C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\CDImage.wav Peak level 100.0 % Test CRC C280D37A Copy CRC C280D37A Copy OK No errors occurred AccurateRip summary Track 1 accurately ripped (confidence 1) [900A101C] Track 2 accurately ripped (confidence 1) [FE69D373] Track 3 accurately ripped (confidence 1) [A5265312] Track 4 accurately ripped (confidence 1) [43545334] Track 5 accurately ripped (confidence 1) [8CCC5191] Track 6 accurately ripped (confidence 1) [56FF2286] Track 7 accurately ripped (confidence 1) [20055397] Track 8 accurately ripped (confidence 1) [25E114FA] VA - GALACTIC NEBULA (new CD, got it on eBay, so I'm curious if it's a bootleg or not) TOC of the extracted CD Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector --------------------------------------------------------- 1 | 0:00.00 | 10:51.20 | 0 | 48844 2 | 10:51.20 | 8:42.45 | 48845 | 88039 3 | 19:33.65 | 5:28.52 | 88040 | 112691 4 | 25:02.42 | 9:23.43 | 112692 | 154959 5 | 34:26.10 | 7:45.22 | 154960 | 189856 6 | 42:11.32 | 9:38.58 | 189857 | 233264 7 | 51:50.15 | 8:04.70 | 233265 | 269634 8 | 59:55.10 | 7:52.12 | 269635 | 305046 Track 1 Filename C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\VA - Galactic Nebula (1997) (FLAC)\01-MFG_-_Shape_The_Future.wav Peak level 99.4 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC 03403839 Copy CRC 03403839 Track not present in AccurateRip database Copy OK Track 2 Filename C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\VA - Galactic Nebula (1997) (FLAC)\02-Red_Aum_-_Orion.wav Peak level 99.4 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC 653B499A Copy CRC 653B499A Track not present in AccurateRip database Copy OK Track 3 Filename C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\VA - Galactic Nebula (1997) (FLAC)\03-Asia_2001_-_Planetarium.wav Peak level 99.3 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC 3E43DF01 Copy CRC 3E43DF01 Track not present in AccurateRip database Copy OK Track 4 Filename C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\VA - Galactic Nebula (1997) (FLAC)\04-Komaklub_-_Komaklub.wav Peak level 99.4 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC EA2B6667 Copy CRC EA2B6667 Track not present in AccurateRip database Copy OK Track 5 Filename C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\VA - Galactic Nebula (1997) (FLAC)\05-Asia_2001_-_Processor_5.wav Peak level 99.3 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC AE361F3D Copy CRC AE361F3D Track not present in AccurateRip database Copy OK Track 6 Filename C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\VA - Galactic Nebula (1997) (FLAC)\06-Komaklub_-_Vertige.wav Peak level 99.4 % Track quality 99.9 % Test CRC 5DC453A7 Copy CRC 5DC453A7 Track not present in AccurateRip database Copy OK Track 7 Filename C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\VA - Galactic Nebula (1997) (FLAC)\07-Asia_2001_-_Rakshas.wav Peak level 99.3 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC 53309C3A Copy CRC 53309C3A Track not present in AccurateRip database Copy OK Track 8 Filename C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\VA - Galactic Nebula (1997) (FLAC)\08-Pushmataha_-_Diu.wav Peak level 99.3 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC E5CA80EA Copy CRC E5CA80EA Track not present in AccurateRip database Copy OK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bADASSwhale Posted September 17, 2009 Author Share Posted September 17, 2009 Asia 2001 - Strange World (old cd, correct values) TOC of the extracted CD Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector --------------------------------------------------------- 1 | 0:00.00 | 7:36.35 | 0 | 34234 2 | 7:36.35 | 7:57.30 | 34235 | 70039 3 | 15:33.65 | 6:14.23 | 70040 | 98112 4 | 21:48.13 | 7:42.35 | 98113 | 132797 5 | 29:30.48 | 8:53.12 | 132798 | 172784 6 | 38:23.60 | 7:11.35 | 172785 | 205144 7 | 45:35.20 | 6:36.03 | 205145 | 234847 8 | 52:11.23 | 7:04.47 | 234848 | 266694 Track 1 Filename C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\Asia 2001 - 1996 - Strange World (FLAC)\01-Asia_2001_-_Strange_World.wav Peak level 95.0 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC 70C849CD Copy CRC 70C849CD Track not present in AccurateRip database Copy OK Track 2 Filename C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\Asia 2001 - 1996 - Strange World (FLAC)\02-Asia_2001_-_Lokâyatikas.wav Peak level 99.9 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC B0050D98 Copy CRC B0050D98 Track not present in AccurateRip database Copy OK Track 3 Filename C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\Asia 2001 - 1996 - Strange World (FLAC)\03-Asia_2001_-_7ème_Symbol.wav Peak level 98.1 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC A2A55513 Copy CRC A2A55513 Track not present in AccurateRip database Copy OK Asia 2001 - Ra (not my rip, but I've seen several people's that match) TOC of the extracted CD Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector --------------------------------------------------------- 1 | 0:00.32 | 9:00.08 | 32 | 40539 2 | 9:00.40 | 7:32.52 | 40540 | 74491 3 | 16:33.17 | 6:57.73 | 74492 | 105839 4 | 23:31.15 | 6:37.70 | 105840 | 135684 5 | 30:09.10 | 6:18.50 | 135685 | 164084 6 | 36:27.60 | 6:21.52 | 164085 | 192711 7 | 42:49.37 | 9:10.70 | 192712 | 234031 8 | 52:00.32 | 8:29.28 | 234032 | 272234 9 | 60:29.60 | 7:09.65 | 272235 | 304474 10 | 67:39.50 | 2:39.55 | 304475 | 316454 Track 1 Filename C:\Users\pm\Desktop\asia2001\01-Asia_2001_-_Rotopod.wav Peak level 87.5 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC A9D0B4F5 Copy CRC A9D0B4F5 Copy OK Track 2 Filename C:\Users\pm\Desktop\asia2001\02-Asia_2001_-_Paradise_Island.wav Peak level 75.8 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC AC5E1599 Copy CRC AC5E1599 Copy OK Track 3 Filename C:\Users\pm\Desktop\asia2001\03-Asia_2001_-_Planetarium.wav Peak level 77.1 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC 6906D808 Copy CRC 6906D808 Copy OK VA - Psychedelic Transition - Andromede (newer CD) TOC of the extracted CD Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector --------------------------------------------------------- 1 | 0:00.32 | 6:54.13 | 32 | 31094 2 | 6:54.45 | 7:03.47 | 31095 | 62866 3 | 13:58.17 | 6:06.70 | 62867 | 90386 4 | 20:05.12 | 8:38.25 | 90387 | 129261 5 | 28:43.37 | 6:36.35 | 129262 | 158996 6 | 35:19.72 | 5:59.53 | 158997 | 185974 7 | 41:19.50 | 8:01.62 | 185975 | 222111 8 | 49:21.37 | 7:18.15 | 222112 | 254976 9 | 56:39.52 | 7:20.15 | 254977 | 287991 Track 1 Filename C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\VA - Psychédélique Transition - Andromède (1996) (FLAC)\01-Martin_Cooper_-_Hallu_Practical.wav Pre-gap length 0:00:02.32 Peak level 99.2 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC 9554B415 Copy CRC 9554B415 Track not present in AccurateRip database Copy OK Track 2 Filename C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\VA - Psychédélique Transition - Andromède (1996) (FLAC)\02-Phushmataha_-_Bloomer.wav Pre-gap length 0:00:00.38 Peak level 87.0 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC FDA9A4DD Copy CRC FDA9A4DD Track not present in AccurateRip database Copy OK Track 3 Filename C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\VA - Psychédélique Transition - Andromède (1996) (FLAC)\03-Asia_2001_-_Mara-Djha.wav Peak level 100.0 % Track quality 99.9 % Test CRC 436F4CED Copy CRC 436F4CED Track not present in AccurateRip database Copy OK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goa-Head Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Is there a way to block completely an IP address/all know IP addresses he has registered to on psynews ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mars Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Goa-Head: please report to me instead of replying in threads. No wse can't he's using proxies. bwhale: consider this page showing that 2 versions of Live exist (sure of it, I have the official, Anoebis has the promo) http://www.discogs.com/Asia-2001-Live/master/89566 Honnestly, I don't think there were many bootlegs of psytrance cds. Ok a few in the past years in Russia (3DVision cds were bootlegged there) or the balkans, but that's really marginal. I think you can have a different TOC even if you repress a given CD without reusing the original glassmaster, or press in 2 different factories (because for example you distribute from 2 countries at the same time, like France via Transpact and Israel via Phonokol, and it's cheaper like that). I'm not expert in these things but that's likely to have happened then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goa-Head Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I think he's too way much obsessed with EAC. It's not the first time he asked such questions (also on discogs) Before the millennium they produced thousand's of copies for all releases, not like today. So as Mars said before these slight EAC variations are just manufacturing differences from one batch/pressing plant to another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirit Complex Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Well technically the Asia 2001 "promo" versions are the exact same as the originals, only they have slightly different artwork. But I don't have EAC or want to get it so I can't help here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somseensee Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Well technically the Asia 2001 "promo" versions are the exact same as the originals, only they have slightly different artwork. But I don't have EAC or want to get it so I can't help here. Not completely true. Listen to asia 2001 - live ( 2 two last tracks of the promo version are not mastered and ofcourse they sound like crap on the promo). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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