Guest Sudha Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 I regret to inform you that there seems to be a person in the trance world making fake bookings. This person gets the organisers to pay him the air ticket money and an advance of about $2500, claiming that he works on behalf of certain artists labels but it is all fake. He has done it to a Japanese promotor and the deeper we dig the more we seem to uncover about other fake bookings. When the artists did not show up for the Japanes gig his excuse to the promotor was that the artists sister had died in a car accident !!!!!! Please take care when you are paying money in advance, it is always best to check with the artists directly unless you have some secure agreement with a trustworthy "middleman". The trance scence is small and most artists prefer to deal with their own bookings anyway no matter how busy they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest joe Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 which artist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kZi Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 I do not understand why anyone is protecting this guy. You can read on the isratrance forum that he stole a track by sub6 and put it under his own name on a compilation he put together. Why everyone lets this go on is completely beyond me, and I'm actually quite angered that a friend of mine was approached about booking this artist and was seriously considering going ahead with it and throwing the event. How much bad stuff does someone have to do in the trance community before everyone starts hollering and the predator is ousted? Trance people are so nice and trusting, it is imperative to blacklist those who have a serious and truthful history of devious business practises, as this person seems to. I've not been directly wronged (though I have been approached with the offer of booking the artist in question as well as others) but this angers me nonetheless - to see such terrible behavior in someone who runs a record label and receives regular bookings across the world. I write no names because I don't know for 100% sure. If its true, then - again, why protect the con artist? Let people know damnit, so this can be avoided! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sudha Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 I agree with you FULLY kZi. Who Knows, we may end up naming him pretty soon. He knows who he is and so do a number of other organisers and promotors and slowly slowly the news will spread, thats the beauty of this scene, the computer generation, we can spread the news and spread it fast!! Wish he would give the money back that he has taken on false pretences. The artists work hard to make it in this scene, they give it everything they have and to find out that some person is sitting there claiming to be you and taking money for fake bookings from innocent people who just want to make a party for the good feeling is disgusting.... We will get him in the end .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest r2d2 Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 "Who Knows, we may end up naming him pretty soon." Well why not name him now? If he is what you say he, is don't you want people to know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sudha Posted May 3, 2003 Share Posted May 3, 2003 His name is Mike Liquid Brown Besides stealing tracks that are not his and claiming they are, as kZi said, he aslo takes money for fake bookings claiming to be another artist. Once he has received the money he sneakily removes the name the he had on his schedule pretending it was never there. You can also read on Isratrance that he has also pretended to be Atmos !!!! He must be stopped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoebis Posted May 3, 2003 Share Posted May 3, 2003 we had a lot of shit with the guy too... He said to be the manager of Logic Bomb (?) but no money involved luckely... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mazavor Posted May 3, 2003 Share Posted May 3, 2003 isnt that the guy who released the liquid green dog album?? and the labelowner of elementrecords?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sudha Posted May 3, 2003 Share Posted May 3, 2003 YIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mike liquid Posted May 3, 2003 Share Posted May 3, 2003 dear sudha if you dont know the full story of the booking in japan please dont talk. i am working with jonas bergvall ex logic bomb (z-man) and he his the only guy that i am do booking to, i never said that i am doing booking to logic bomb so..... the money was return to the promoter in japan, and as he understand it was not 100% my fult . if you want to hear the story you can cell me anytime . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest maz Posted May 3, 2003 Share Posted May 3, 2003 and what is about pretending to be atmos and why do other people have bad experiences with you?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoebis Posted May 3, 2003 Share Posted May 3, 2003 Well, the Belgian Logic Bomb story is cleared now, but you have to admit that there was something terribly wrong... (as far as David told me you would send the contract and at once you decieded to let them play on another party in Belgium 2 weeks later and to destroy our agreement) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sudha Posted May 3, 2003 Share Posted May 3, 2003 OH REALLY....HA HA UM Mike it was a Tranan booking you made in Japan and not Z man and then claimed his siter had died in a car accident so....please explain (it said Tranan there before but you recently removed it 2842003) and what about the gig in Hungry that you have on your schedule !!! (www.element-records.to )and have taken money for already, thats not Zman yet you write: "and he his the only guy that i am do booking to" .....it does not say Z man anywhere yet you have received money...right!!! When people call you, you hang up the phone or block their mails SO please go ahead, explain yourself.... and the pretending to be other artists and the stealing tracks the floor is yours, all yours,so go ahead and explain yourself ...and while you are at it best you also explain yourself on Isratrance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mikeliquid Posted May 3, 2003 Share Posted May 3, 2003 1st. i never play as atmos, atmos was book to this party by mdma guys and thay have a fight with the orgnizer so thay take atmos from the party home , the orgnizer cell me and ask me to play since he stok with out a djs, so i never play as atmos , atmos was standing next to me whan i play there. 2nd.abut david from belgium , i didnt sand him any contract and i cancele the booking since we have element label night 2 weeks after and it will be stuiped if sombody will play 2 weeks before that. 3rd. jonas bergvall use to be a part of logic bomb 70% of his tracks is under the name logic bomb so we book him as logic bomb as well, but since the outher 2 member of logic bomb ask as not to do it any more we stop and if you open your eyes you will see that on my web-site it say z-man as well. 4th. if you want to hear the story abut japan sand me your phone number to my e-mail:info@element-records.to, and i cell you. so this is all the story , i am sorry that the thing want like that and i am fixing tham, i booked a lot of artist in israel and pay tham a lot of times from my own pocket after we get rip off by some orgnizers and host tham very well you can ask : dominc lamb,yumade, katayama, anti , noma, cosmosis, mindfiled,shakta and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sudha Posted May 3, 2003 Share Posted May 3, 2003 Nice try nice try You still have some explaining to do. Why suddenly cancel a booking when someone wants to send you a contract? Surely you knew about the element label night in advance... Maybe my eyes are deceiving me, I doubt it, but what exactly does it say nexy to 175 2003 on YOUR schedule?? I know that the organisers have paid you an advance by bank transfer...why to you I wonder? Have you given the money back for that as well (doubt it). 26/04/2003 UK - liquid green dogs (live),manmademan (live) logic bomb (dj set), DJ mike liquid (dj set) 28/04/2003 Japan - Liquid Green Dogs (live), (Tranan - but now removed) DJ Mike Liquid (dj set) 17/05/2003 Hungary - DJ Mike Liquid (DJ set), Logic Bomb (live) 23-25/05/03 Austria/batusim psy camp festivel- liquid green dogs (dj set), logic bomb/z-man (dj set), DJ moushka (dj set) 29/05/2003 Brasil - element label party - logic bomb/z-man (dj set) DJ Mike Liquid (DJ set) DJ BETO RL (dj set) 31/05/2003 Brasil - DJ mike liquid/liquid green dogs (dj set), logic bomb/z-man (dj set), DJ beto rl (dj set) 21/06/2003 Brasil - DJ mike liquid/liquid green dogs (dj set), logic bomb/z-man (dj set), dj beto rl (dj set) 28/06/2003 Brasil - DJ mike liquid/liquid green dogs (dj set), logic bomb/z-man (dj set), DJ beto rl (dj set) 29-31/08/03 Mexico - liquid green dogs (live), logic bomb (dj set), DJ mike liquid (dj set) 04/10/2003 Belgium - Elemenet Records label party - liquid green dogs (live),element (live), logic bomb (dj set), DJ mike liquid (dj set), DJ moushka (dj set) "4th. if you want to hear the story abut japan sand me your phone number to my e-mail:info@element-records.to, and i cell you." Lets talk about Japan right here so everyone can hear: why then did you say that the persons sister had died in a car accident, explain yourself here as by now many people know about this story Z man is Z man so why are you not putting the name first ????? Over to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Duodenum Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 "Liquid Brown" seems fitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagginz Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Looks like I am late to the party... so this is all the story , i am sorry that the thing want like that and i am fixing tham, i booked a lot of artist in israel and pay tham a lot of times from my own pocket after we get rip off by some orgnizers and host tham very well you can ask : dominc lamb,yumade, katayama, anti , noma, cosmosis, mindfiled, shakta and more. Yes, good idea, let's ask Cosmosis shall we? Generally I don't like to rain on anybody's parade BUT if you are a promoter or artist I would strongly advise against using Mike Liquid for your bookings. Among other things the second time I worked with him he tried to pass himself off as my manager and insert himself between the promoter and my fee. I know because caught him doing it. He has released tracks by other artists without their permission under his own name "Mike Liquid" and claimed to have written them himself or had input into them, neither of which are true. The artists were not paid a penny. If you want some real horror stories, just ask John Phantasm (Mindfield) about Mike Liquid. He has got some really good ones... To Mike. Sorry mate but you are crook and a charlatan and do not deserve to have anybody's trust in business. Cheers, Bilbo Bagginz Producer: Cosmosis + Mumbo Jumbo "Liquid Brown" seems fitting. 49275[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest .::E.P Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Looks like I am late to the party... Yes, good idea, let's ask Cosmosis shall we? Generally I don't like to rain on anybody's parade BUT if you are a promoter or artist I would strongly advise against using Mike Liquid for your bookings. Among other things the second time I worked with him he tried to pass himself off as my manager and insert himself between the promoter and my fee. I know because caught him doing it. He has released tracks by other artists without their permission under his own name "Mike Liquid" and claimed to have written them himself or had input into them, neither of which are true. The artists were not paid a penny. If you want some real horror stories, just ask John Phantasm (Mindfield) about Mike Liquid. He has got some really good ones... To Mike. Sorry mate but you are crook and a charlatan and do not deserve to have anybody's trust in business. Cheers, Bilbo Bagginz Producer: Cosmosis + Mumbo Jumbo 264133[/snapback] man this topic is from 2003... aren't you a bit too late with your comments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontier Psychiatrist Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 man this topic is from 2003... aren't you a bit too late with your comments? 264137[/snapback] Better later then never. BTW, a friend of mine got a free Liquid Green Dog CD after he filled some gas in a gas station. I guess he got what he deserved.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Le Lotus Bleu Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 i have already heard these bad words reputation about this guy, is this Mike Liquid still active in the trance scene that someone decided to reactivate this old topic? btw as i already said elsewhere used to got a compilation from him 'From dusk till dawn' (Phonokol), i place it in my top 3 worst trance top ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontier Psychiatrist Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Some useful info http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/.../19144/forum/11 http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/.../19426/forum/27 http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/.../15154/forum/41 http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/...c/1923/forum/41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETOX Posted May 22, 2005 Share Posted May 22, 2005 Huh this guy is a joke,i still remember the problems he caused me with Logic Bomb and Tranan some years ago. Thankfully i didnt loose any serious money because of him,just some wasted flyers,and thankfully he got what he deserved and he is tottally out of this scene in our days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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