amithaba_buddha Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Where did I say you are "ruining the Goa scene"? Don't falsely characterize me. All I said is that you're a wannabe--and a drama queen to boot, what with your "I'm leaving the scene" announcement that was so quickly followed by some rubbish about making the comeback because the people have spoken and they love your music too much for you to disappoint them... what a joke. indeed what a joke , if you would listen carefully to the single i threw after at the time you would get it but seems you dont know anything about Art , so lets get a drink shall we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afgin Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 well,after reading all the comments,we must remember that after all...it is only music. GOA,ACID,CLUB,FULL ON,MINIAML,PROG,and etc...all those are only headlines/names...the must important thing for me it is the music at the end,and if i like it or not...the name is not important,first listen to music,than deside,dont jodge music for good or bad,only because it is new school...or old school,not only in goa,i mean to all kind of music geners. now,i dont care what name you gave to music,if it is good to my ears,and a like it,thats all for me,in my case i love goa much as i like club trance,much as i like eurodance,much as i like all kinds of music that sound good to my ears. when i do music,i use the sounds i like,ryhtem,melodies and etc...the important point is not if its new school or old school or what ever...for me at the end if i like the result,than it is 100% good for me,now if pepole like it,its great,and if pepole dont like it is great also...cause pepole have their own personal taste in music,like i have,like everyone has,and i never judge pepole in their music taste,whatever pepole like,its cool. and about suntrip records,i think if some pepole put in side their bitter,and their sarcastic way of point...at the end,there is one objective and strong hold fact,since suntrip records start,until today,they are getting bigger,and get huge promotions and attention in the world trance scene,and why is this? it about the music at the end. so yes,instead of being bitter,and saracastic,you can say "well done suntrip records",even if some pepole dont like their music style and etc...at the end,suntrip records is a succses story,and that is a fact. so it is ok to give complimetns,its not cost any money,and i know some pepole it is "hard" for them to see somthing get bigger,like suntrip records in our case,and to give good words. but its cool,the facts speaks for their self. cheers everyone,and take it easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elysium Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 I guess I am a troll too then because I dont share the opinion of some of the people here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amithaba_buddha Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 well,after reading all the comments,we must remember that after all...it is only music. GOA,ACID,CLUB,FULL ON,MINIAML,PROG,and etc...all those are only headlines/names...the must important thing for me it is the music at the end,and if i like it or not...the name is not important,first listen to music,than deside,dont jodge music for good or bad,only because it is new school...or old school,not only in goa,i mean to all kind of music geners. now,i dont care what name you gave to music,if it is good to my ears,and a like it,thats all for me,in my case i love goa much as i like club trance,much as i like eurodance,much as i like all kinds of music that sound good to my ears. when i do music,i use the sounds i like,ryhtem,melodies and etc...the important point is not if its new school or old school or what ever...for me at the end if i like the result,than it is 100% good for me,now if pepole like it,its great,and if pepole dont like it is great also...cause pepole have their own personal taste in music,like i have,like everyone has,and i never judge pepole in their music taste,whatever pepole like,its cool. and about suntrip records,i think if some pepole put in side their bitter,and their sarcastic way of point...at the end,there is one objective and strong hold fact,since suntrip records start,until today,they are getting bigger,and get huge promotions and attention in the world trance scene,and why is this? it about the music at the end. so yes,instead of being bitter,and saracastic,you can say "well done suntrip records",even if some pepole dont like their music style and etc...at the end,suntrip records is a succses story,and that is a fact. so it is ok to give complimetns,its not cost any money,and i know some pepole it is "hard" for them to see somthing get bigger,like suntrip records in our case,and to give good words. but its cool,the facts speaks for their self. cheers everyone,and take it easy. I'm with you Afgin because i do see things the same way you do and this discussion wasn't even about Suntrip i do appreciate what they're doing afterall but nothing is full of roses and beeing bashed for beeing the Artist i am after all i did for the Scene and for lots of acts and also the Scene on where Suntrip is also there working , cmon Afgin what do you call that? Is that the "Goa" we believe? Certainly isn't the "Goa" i believe for sure. I do thanks SunTrip for what they are doing , Huge Respekt from my part there you go , they released some Gems (including your album which i really like btw) despite i don't like all of them but still there's a LOT of WORK behind and i sure do appreciate their efforts and the Artists because i am one and also managed labels and i sure do know here more than anyone of how much work is involved. The final question here then is : is everybody here damn perfect? i guarantee anybody in the world is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amithaba_buddha Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I guess I am a troll too then because I dont share the opinion of some of the people here. Make it 2 shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwang Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I guess I am a troll too then because I dont share the opinion of some of the people here. Please, stop with the fake victim BS. Having a different opinion doesn't make you a troll. On topic(ish): I like the music of Suntrip, but I agree with EP to an extent, since it seems to me that there's a lot of snobbery among some members of psynews about the relative merits of Goa trance and more recent psy subgenres. It's fair enough if people like the Goa sound and want to hear more of it, but don't pretend that trance has to sound like a carbon copy of Pleiadians or D5 to qualify as psychedelic. I wasn't there when old-school Goa trance happened so I can't comment on whether the "spirit" of the early scene is still there in the new-school scene, but something that consistently strikes me when listening to stuff from the 90's is that it didn't all sound like Filteria, and that's a large part of what made it good (no disrespect intended towards Filteria, I like his music) - IMO variety and constant evolution are almost essential ingredients of psytrance, since a lot of what makes music psychedelic is not sounding quite like anything one has heard before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afgin Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I'm with you Afgin because i do see things the same way you do and this discussion wasn't even about Suntrip i do appreciate what they're doing afterall but nothing is full of roses and beeing bashed for beeing the Artist i am after all i did for the Scene and for lots of acts and also the Scene on where Suntrip is also there working , cmon Afgin what do you call that? Is that the "Goa" we believe? Certainly isn't the "Goa" i believe for sure. I do thanks SunTrip for what they are doing , Huge Respekt from my part there you go , they released some Gems (including your album which i really like btw) despite i don't like all of them but still there's a LOT of WORK behind and i sure do appreciate their efforts and the Artists because i am one and also managed labels and i sure do know here more than anyone of how much work is involved. The final question here then is : is everybody here damn perfect? i guarantee anybody in the world is. well i prefer not to use the word "BELIVE" in music cause its makes music to be like religion,i prefer words "love the music",or "i like or dont like the music",cause it is more true in its way. thats way at first,i listen to music,and if it is good to my ears,then its good for me,any kind of music,from electronic music to cllasic music. thats why all headlines like old school,or new school and etc...sometimes makes pepole to jodge music before they even listen it,for good and for bad i mean sure,there is headlines for music genres,but,first listen to the music,and if its good for you,you dont need the headlines,you just love the music and thats it...this is my way of point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amithaba_buddha Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 well i prefer not to use the word "BELIVE" in music cause its makes music to be like religion,i prefer words "love the music",or "i like or dont like the music",cause it is more true in its way. thats way at first,i listen to music,and if it is good to my ears,then its good for me,any kind of music,from electronic music to cllasic music. thats why all headlines like old school,or new school and etc...sometimes makes pepole to jodge music before they even listen it,for good and for bad i mean sure,there is headlines for music genres,but,first listen to the music,and if its good for you,you dont need the headlines,you just love the music and thats it...this is my way of point Elad , i wasn't talking about the music. Goa is a State of Mind remember? To be Free and Opened to Everything. That's Goa. Not pointing to that person and judging others decisions or behaviors , but help instead and Respect. I can't believe i have to tell you this you Lived the Old Times! That's what it is GOA to me the least , i can tell that to most part of the "New School" Scene it's not and sure the "New School" has a BIG LOT to learn of what is GOA all about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afgin Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Elad , i wasn't talking about the music. Goa is a State of Mind remember? To be Free and Opened to Everything. That's Goa. Not pointing to that person and judging others deciisions or behavors , but help instead and Respect. That's what it is GOA. its ok what you said,but for an example, i can love rock music,and to be good person,help,and respect... the point is that first i focus in music...and then the other parts,like the colture,and etc... thats why i seperate music from the colture...for an example,many pepole in the trance secene do psychedelic drugs its part of the culture,but i dont do drugs,...just for an example for what i mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amithaba_buddha Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 its ok what you said,but for an example, i can love rock music,and to be good person,help,and respect... the point is that first i focus in music...and then the other parts,like the colture,and etc... thats why i seperate music from the colture...for an example,many pepole in the trance secene do drugs its part of the culture,but i dont do drugs...just for an example for what i mean Messij Receivd Glad to hear that seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consciousness9001 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Am I missing some kind of backstory/gay subtext here?Yes Basilisk is gay, I thought everyone knew this already. Please put more purple and pink hues on ektoplazm site so people won't be confused. Just to clear up why Basilisk got angry at buddha, it's because Basilisk hates oldschool music and loves new psytrance. He puts a lot of effort into slandering goa trance. Just look at his essentials list for proof, it's mostly "goa trance releases leading towards psytrance" rather than the best releases. I guess I am a troll too then because I dont share the opinion of some of the people here.I guess you are me then, because everyone that posts anything controversial on psynews is me. Welcome to the club. Be careful though, I've seen a few unknown people get banned before because people pointed and shouted "bwhale". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amithaba_buddha Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Yes Basilisk is gay, I thought everyone knew this already. Please put more purple and pink hues on ektoplazm site so people won't be confused. Just to clear up why Basilisk got angry at buddha, it's because Basilisk hates oldschool music and loves new psytrance. He puts a lot of effort into slandering goa trance. Just look at his essentials list for proof, it's mostly "goa trance releases leading towards psytrance" rather than the best releases. Don't worry man , everyone is the way it is and to me that's none of my concern so don't worry 'bout me man but thanks anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amithaba_buddha Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Be careful though, I've seen a few unknown people get banned before because people pointed and shouted "bwhale". Now that's funny! HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA And now in respect to Trance2MoveU please let's get back on topic since it was the person which started it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consciousness9001 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Goa has nothing to do with respecting people or love and peace or anything, sorry. Goa is a place on the map. Goa is also a type of music. The difference between goa and 4 other types of music is how the kick sounds and at what intervals the hihats are placed... that goes to show how stupid all these subgenres really are. Afgin is right about that. But we can still discuss the differences between newschool and older goa because there is quite a difference there, both temporally and in terms of sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisk Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 bwhale: you may think that if you tell a lie often enough people will start to believe it... but I think everyone already realizes you're just throwing out random shit hoping that something will stick. And it won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consciousness9001 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 bwhale: you may think that if you tell a lie often enough people will start to believe it... but I think everyone already realizes you're just throwing out random shit hoping that something will stick. And it won't. No need to lie, anyone can go check out your website and see that what I'm saying is the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisk Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 What, that there are purple and pink tones there? Sure. I also have a big list of recommendations covering the last 20 years of trance music. Naturally the more recent years are stacked with many different types of psytrance. Doesn't mean I hate or even dislike old school Goa trance--quite the opposite. I enjoy a variety of different sounds from different times. You have had a real issue with my choices since day one yet you offer absolutely nothing of value--just baseless complaints and endless trolling. I don't know what you expect from the project--should I post a note explaining that no music worth hearing has been made since 2001? In any case, your views on this matter are completely irrelevant. Incidentally, here's the track listing for my most recent set: E-Rection - Out Here We Are Stoned (X-Dream Remix) Tarsis - Atomic Children (Remix) Spiral Active Project & DJ Goblin - Grounded Metal Spark - The Iron Maiden Deviant Electronics - Vesuvius Beast - Trouble MFG - Intelligent Machine B.E.T.H. - Incredible News To Access Organic Noise - Spastic Elastic The Delta - As A Child I Could Walk On The Ceiling Four Carry Nuts - Weird Egg Pigs In Space - Visitors (Part 1) Transwave - Flamicogyre Pleiadians - Taygeta Oforia - Outer Conception Psychopod - Universal Mind Jaia & Dado - Sillenium Transwave - The Rezwalker Etnica - Starship 101 Astral Projection - Black & White MFG - When We Dream This idea that I hate the classics is just nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consciousness9001 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Nobody here cares what the track list for your latest set is buddy. Email that shit to your mom, she'll congratulate you. This thread is about Suntrip Records not insolent fools basilisking in my triumph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malevol3nt Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Well this is fantastic, bwhale making multiple accounts and agreeing with his multiple personalities. There's actually a way to prevent him or any other troll from posting in our forums with a simple and elegant solution, fyi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisk Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 bwhale's disinformation campaign hits a snag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consciousness9001 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 There's actually a way to prevent him or any other troll from posting in our forums with a simple and elegant solution, fyi.Please tell us, I'm sure mars, nemo and myself would like to know. To current knowledge, I'm unbannable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malevol3nt Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Please tell us, I'm sure mars, nemo and myself would like to know. To current knowledge, I'm unbannable. Don't worry, it has almost nothing to do with banning. In fact, if the idea gets implemented, you are going to leave on your own will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consciousness9001 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Don't worry, it has almost nothing to do with banning. In fact, if the idea gets implemented, you are going to leave on your own will. Basilisk and his boyfriend are going to be licensed by psynews to post their homemade gay porn in every thread I take interest in? Seriously though, I bet your idea is something like "ignore you". Amirite? Unfortunately this forum is pretty much nothing without me. I'm the smartest member here. The controversy and discussion always revolves around me. Nobody could ignore me. I've watched this forum when I wasn't active for a few weeks and it's pretty boring. Everyone is basically waiting for me to return. Only a small minority actually wants me to be gone in the first place. Keep dreaming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elysium Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Please, stop with the fake victim BS. Having a different opinion doesn't make you a troll. It was ironi mate. In reference to two people having a hard time coping with amithaba_buddha's and my opinion (I am not getting into others "fights". bwhale or whoever he/she is can fight his/her own battles). bwhale/sunwolf/eiko/elysium strikes again! Apparently it isn't possible for someone to express their open admiration for all that Suntrip has done without the trolls such as bwhale and wannabes like you (he is talking about amithaba_buddha) taking over In regard to Basilisk's comment I have to say I find it much harder to be "allowed" to express any criticism about any so-called Goa artists in this forum without being called a troll (from one person) or without some people taking it personal and getting irritated. I don't find that constructive. And forgive me if I find it a bit dobbelstandard what you're saying. I don't see amithaba_buddha or myself telling Suntrip they are wrong or not respecting them or their work. All I see is a debate about if the new so called "Goa" has much to do with Goatrance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elysium Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Just to clear up why Basilisk got angry at buddha, it's because Basilisk hates oldschool music and loves new psytrance. He puts a lot of effort into slandering goa trance. Just look at his essentials list for proof, it's mostly "goa trance releases leading towards psytrance" rather than the best releases. Not true and bull! And as a side note he hosts my "old-school" live set and that's as far as possible from anything to do with new psytrance. I am grateful with Basilisk for it even though we do not always see eye to eye in debates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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