Ormion Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Just curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostOnAcid Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imba Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Good... most tracks sounds same today... people forgot old school! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penzoline Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 There needs to be more dark and/or cinematic(Pleiadians, MFG, Crop Circles, Juno Reactor)GOA. Otherwise I'm throughly enjoying everything we're getting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwang Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 I think it needs more variety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imba Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Goa trance becoming melodic trance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trance2MoveU Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Goa trance becoming melodic trance I voted awesome, but if you're in the mood for a darker goa experience, I just reviewed an EP from Direct Brain Access in the 2009 reviews. It's a free release and a 22 minute track. You will not be sorry. Mdk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amithaba_buddha Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Goa trance becoming melodic trance I don't see the problem with melodies , music is both melodic and rhythmic , or you do both or simply explore one of each side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eudaimonia Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 O-OW not this discussion again I guess what they mean is music that doesn't focus on pure melodies but on athmospheres on structures maybe even on concepts and offcourse that music is in most cases darker then the melodic stuff.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JISNEGRO Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 There needs to be more dark and/or cinematic(Pleiadians, MFG, Crop Circles, Juno Reactor)GOA. Otherwise I'm throughly enjoying everything we're getting. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basilisk Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 I think some new school Goa is way superior to the average old school release. Look at it this way: the golden age lasted from 1995 to about 1998. New school Goa has been rocking out since 2004 and shows no sign of stopping. It's had more time to develop and mature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agneton Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 O-OW not this discussion again +1 With all due respect, but I'm getting bored with all these endless Newschool-Oldschool superiority debates. Each period has it's bad names and each period has it's good names. And strangely enough, nobody 100% agrees with anybody else about which names are the bad ones and which are the good ones. It's called: tha fabulous miracle of taste and subjectiveness !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormion Posted April 14, 2010 Author Share Posted April 14, 2010 The five things I don't like in New School Goa: 1. No stand out melodies. Back then tracks could have one-two melodies, but they stuck in your head. Today tracks have 5-6 melodies that are easily forgettable. 2. Too much floatness. Where is the intensity? The crazy climaxes? The twists? I don't wannna guess a whole track just by listening the first 30 seconds. I don't wanna fall asleep, I want energy. 3. No dark Goa, no twisted Goa. It seems that everything today is about the sunshine or the positive energy. Back then was also about the obscure, the dreams, the night. 4. Too many oriental melodies. Goa doesn't necessarily means oriental melodies. Remember MWNN, Cydonia, Psychaos etc. 5. No evolution. When Pleiadians released FOL back in 1999 I thought that Goa made the big step into something new. The 'death' of the Goa scene obviously didn't help that evolution. New School Goa seems to start from day one (1995), when it could start from FOL and forth. I still enjoy New School Goa very much. Filteria, Afgin, Agneton, Amithabha, Artifact 303, Subra, Alienapia, Khetzal etc. are really great producers and many new tracks beat the crap out of old school Goa, but like Basilisk said new school is here since 2004 so I believe it's time for the new step. All IMO of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djuna Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Find us newschool artists who make music like this and we'll shut up! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUEPvepO2CE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhkLStV7hvE etc.. ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agneton Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 The five things I don't like in New School Goa: 1. No stand out melodies. Back then tracks could have one-two melodies, but they stuck in your head. Today tracks have 5-6 melodies that are easily forgettable. 2. Too much floatness. Where is the intensity? The crazy climaxes? The twists? I don't wannna guess a whole track just by listening the first 30 seconds. I don't wanna fall asleep, I want energy. Well I do agree a lot on these two points, hence why we created Sita Records...however it's kinda oriental all the way @Djuna: You probably know most of it, but again, I guess your taste matches Cronomi Records, Space Baby Records and maybe also a few other 'freelance'-artists such as Arronax, Innerself & Liquid Mind... I enjoy their music a lot, but since my childhood I've always been attracted by larger-than-life cheeze, so that's my main preference *EDIT* Ultiva Records also fits the list! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qa2pir Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 The five things I don't like in New School Goa: 1. No stand out melodies. Back then tracks could have one-two melodies, but they stuck in your head. Today tracks have 5-6 melodies that are easily forgettable. 2. Too much floatness. Where is the intensity? The crazy climaxes? The twists? I don't wannna guess a whole track just by listening the first 30 seconds. I don't wanna fall asleep, I want energy. 3. No dark Goa, no twisted Goa. It seems that everything today is about the sunshine or the positive energy. Back then was also about the obscure, the dreams, the night. 4. Too many oriental melodies. Goa doesn't necessarily means oriental melodies. Remember MWNN, Cydonia, Psychaos etc. 5. No evolution. When Pleiadians released FOL back in 1999 I thought that Goa made the big step into something new. The 'death' of the Goa scene obviously didn't help that evolution. New School Goa seems to start from day one (1995), when it could start from FOL and forth. You said it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormion Posted April 14, 2010 Author Share Posted April 14, 2010 Well I do agree a lot on these two points, hence why we created Sita Records...however it's kinda oriental all the way I don't have any problems with oriental melodies, but I don't believe that Goa means necessarily oriental melodies. I believe you agree with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agneton Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 I do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(OM)Open_Mind Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 The five things I don't like in New School Goa: ... All IMO of course. I think main reason is number of producers and releases in golden ages. There was much more creative human beings and powerful substances involved in goa scene, comparatively to nowadays. So any goa freak was able to find something close to his taste. But new school scene slowly grows... Many of the demanding people will get what they want if they'll live long enough. Let's be optimistic. My vote is Good. For now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronSun Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 I believe that a lot of new school releases are of superb quality, thanks to a few well-known and respected labels. Yet, I am still waiting for something legendary, stuff with the quality of old pleiadians, hallucinogen, mfg, to name a few. I do believe though that it's a coming, I really do. It's all a matter of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elysium Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 I believe that a lot of new school releases are of superb quality, thanks to a few well-known and respected labels. hmmm I would rather say thanks to the artists who make the music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agneton Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 But this recent wave of Nitzho/Uplifting with a new VA coming out every week is a bit to much. Exqueeze me ? Can you point out those releases plz? And for sure you enjoyed Nitz for longer than 5 minutes. Still got ur Nitzho tracks in my harddisk. And they kick ass btw...whatever u think about them. EDIT: Also, the thread is about Newschool...I think most people already share a general feeling of disgust towards Nitz, so no need to discuss that here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormion Posted April 15, 2010 Author Share Posted April 15, 2010 I think most people already share a general feeling of disgust towards Nitz, so no need to discuss that here. About bad nitz. I don't mind good nitz at all. Actually one of my all time favorite tracks is a actually a nitz/semi-nitz one. (Psychonauts-Howling At The Moon). There is good and bad nitzo. Your music Agneton belongs to the good side. I'm not saying that cause you're here (I don't know you personally after all), but this is how good nitzo should be. Multilayered, crazy, psychedelic, intense with hard but not annoying kicks and cheesy yet not belly dance melodies. Unfortunately you're the minority. Although I have to admit that new school nitzo is 100 times better than the disgusting uplifting crap we use to have in Greece some years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agneton Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Thanks Ormion, and yes of course feel free to say what you don't like and what you do. It's a forum after all. I'm just guessing what Diaks is talking about. I can't recall any recent Nitzho stuff except for Sita Records. If there's more, then I'm really curious to discover this 'new wave of Nitzho', for sure we don't call 5 artist releasing 500 CD's a 'new wave', or a hype? That would be a bit too much honour ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imba Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Today people making goa for dancefloor... must be hard, have groove, 'melodies for dancing'... IMO if you dont have that on your track you will not release on popular label. Im pretty interested, why noone label did not want release this stuff? http://www.sendspace.com/file/ii13c1 Dont have groove? Music isnt for jumping and rushing? This is new music, 2 years old and you can call it new school but style is old school. I know music is changing always buy i cant understand this. This album isnt good, production or what? Some 'goa standards'? As some guy said before, all is about sun and positive vibes and SHIVA... All respects to Draeke and DAT records 'keep goa alive' lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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