skyclan Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 ...Please send in your selection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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@reyu Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 PI The movie http://www.pithemovie.com/gifpage.html Requiem for a dream http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0180093/ Both directed by Darren Aranovsky...both recommended! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCrow Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 I'm not really a fan of this type of movie anymore as I find the imagery unnecessary these days. You are what you watch to some extent. But there's a movie that's just been released or soon to be released call "The Human Centipede". It's about a psychotic guy who joins three hapless victims together surgically arse to mouth. There are sequels planned. Here's a on youtube. Enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyclan Posted May 25, 2010 Author Share Posted May 25, 2010 I'm not really a fan of this type of movie anymore as I find the imagery unnecessary these days. You are what you watch to some extent. I take it you've been rehabilitated sir? I'm still stuck in the looney bin. HUMAN CENTIPEDE is inspiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCrow Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 I take it you've been rehabilitated sir? I'm still stuck in the looney bin. HUMAN CENTIPEDE is inspiring. Well, good sir, please explain to me how you find this or this sort of movie INSPIRING. Can you tell me what sort of feeling you get inside when viewing psychotic imagery? How would you feel showing and explaining some of these concepts to a child under the age of 10? Say if your mother was on her deathbed and you had the choice to either show her a movie like this or some scenes from nature, which would you show her for inspiration? What about then your own deathbed? Deathbed aside, what does that say about what one should be immersed in or focus on in their life right now. What is it about shock and gore and twisted depravity that is inspiring? Does it make you feel more alive, stimulated? Are you exploring your inner beast? I'm ok with the inner beast but I don't think it's to be excessively dwelt upon. Acknowledged and explored as something to be refined. In modern society I find a lot of humans are desensitized, numb. So you might need something like this to help you feel awake? "Liking" something disturbing, does it help you feel different from the societal herd, cool? I hope I'm not insulting and if I am I sincerely apologise. I understand that everything is subjective including usage of the word, interpretation and experience of what constitutes as disturbing etc. I feel aspects of this theme can be counter-intuitive to the warmth of basic life-principles. If it is our goal to become better human beings, able to help our fellow humans and homeland to leading better existences, how does this contribute as inspiration? If, to some degree, we understand how nature works, how does this contribute to the evolutionary process that we're able to engage with and facilitate conciously? Perhaps I'm too presumptuous and projective here of my own beliefs and most likely being pompous and/or going into too much depth (I may as well for the hell of it). But if you had to help another human being or aspect of nature in your life, and I mean really help, can you tell me how this would contribute as inspiration to either yourself or them? My response here isn't deadly serious, the internet and these forums and the nature of enjoying music and movies is generally a light-hearted affair. I'm just posting this because I have nothing better to do and can do so. Sorry to get all heavy-handed (worded) and PSYCHOTIC on you. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@reyu Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 I haven't seen Human Centipede so I can not comment on that. I think Joncrow has a point here when he talks about psychotic imagery in movies. I can only speak about for instance Requiem for a dream. This is a serious movie, sometimes funny, maybe a little exaggerated but a film with a message. Some people will think it's cool cause it deals with drug abuse in all its facets, to me it's much more than just "COOL". The film shows how drug abuse can destroy families, relationships,...without being too moralistic about it. Also the fact that the mother of the leading role in the movie uses legal drugs to sedate herself is interesting. My point being you can make an interesting, trippy or "psychotic movie" which is not just "shocking". Sometimes art is just a mirror to society or life as we know it...for me life itself is the biggest shock when I see things unfold before my eyes. We all have demons to deal with in our lives wether we like it or not. The problem is in our society you are not allowed to deal with those demons. IMO if we don't beat the beast in our selves first we can not help any other. Most of the people don't even realise this. Personally I've realised this through art/spirituality, Joncrow, and not by watching a documentary about nature(which can be very inspiring in a slightly different way offcourse). I just wanna say to Joncrow by exploring your dark side you can become a better man by learning how to deal with it. You can not know what's good for you unless you know what's bad for you. Life equals suffering. Light/dark, good/bad and even sanity/insanity cannot exist without each other. We have to learn from those extremes. So as I said you have a point Joncrow, really, but the truth is far more complicated to me. Sometimes life is horrific and sometimes just beautiful. Art should reflect both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCrow Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 I haven't seen Human Centipede so I can not comment on that. I think Joncrow has a point here when he talks about psychotic imagery in movies. I can only speak about for instance Requiem for a dream. This is a serious movie, sometimes funny, maybe a little exaggerated but a film with a message. Some people will think it's cool cause it deals with drug abuse in all its facets, to me it's much more than just "COOL". The film shows how drug abuse can destroy families, relationships,...without being too moralistic about it. Also the fact that the mother of the leading role in the movie uses legal drugs to sedate herself is interesting. My point being you can make an interesting, trippy or "psychotic movie" which is not just "shocking". Sometimes art is just a mirror to society or life as we know it...for me life itself is the biggest shock when I see things unfold before my eyes. We all have demons to deal with in our lives wether we like it or not. The problem is in our society you are not allowed to deal with those demons. IMO if we don't beat the beast in our selves first we can not help any other. Most of the people don't even realise this. Personally I've realised this through art/spirituality, Joncrow, and not by watching a documentary about nature(which can be very inspiring in a slightly different way offcourse). I just wanna say to Joncrow by exploring your dark side you can become a better man by learning how to deal with it. You can not know what's good for you unless you know what's bad for you. Life equals suffering. Light/dark, good/bad and even sanity/insanity cannot exist without each other. We have to learn from those extremes. So as I said you have a point Joncrow, really, but the truth is far more complicated to me. Sometimes life is horrific and sometimes just beautiful. Art should reflect both. I completely agree and will try and elaborate more once I get into work. I just had a bit of a post typed out and pressed the wrong button. Requiem is balanced and poignant in it's portayal. It's a great film. Some of these other films use shock and gore without a sense of balance. I've done extensive work on the dark side of psychology and it's fantastic and incredibly functional, very necessary! Hence why I said that the beast must be acknowledged in my opinion to ultimately be refined, not dwelt upon. A friend of mine has schizophrenia and I would love to see him be able to work through his heavy darker elements in an arena of better psychological understanding and without the social stigma and drug suppression In my last post I was just messing around and exaggerating my point of view to get to the bottom of using a word like INSPIRATION for some of the imagery and delivery present in some of these films that Skyclan is posting. For me inspiration is a massive word and reality with very deep and far reaching connotations. For now I've got to travel on the freeway during peak traffic for an hour. There's some psychotic and twisted shit right there. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@reyu Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 For now I've got to travel on the freeway during peak traffic for an hour. There's some psychotic and twisted shit right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCrow Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 I'm sorry for mentally masturbating myself like a fool in your thread Skyclan. I just want you to know that at no point was I attacking, judging or assuming anything about your character. I was just messing round a bit and my post kept getting bigger and bigger. I kind of hate writing as I can counter all of my own points of view and usage of terminology to the point where it sometimes keeps me up at night. haha I'll try and leave it right there for now unless someone else picks it back up, at which point, now, I apologise in advance for potentially responding like a neurotic and overly verbose reality-geek. Jon =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyclan Posted May 26, 2010 Author Share Posted May 26, 2010 I'm sorry for mentally masturbating myself like a fool in your thread Skyclan. I just want you to know that at no point was I attacking, judging or assuming anything about your character. I was just messing round a bit and my post kept getting bigger and bigger. I kind of hate writing as I can counter all of my own points of view and usage of terminology to the point where it sometimes keeps me up at night. haha I'll try and leave it right there for now unless someone else picks it back up, at which point, now, I apologise in advance for potentially responding like a neurotic and overly verbose reality-geek. Jon =) It's copacetic...what is the point of being crazy if i can't find the humor in it? me and me and me agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draeke Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 JonCrow and @reyu both have a point. I am a fan up to some point of this kind of movies but i think i have seen enough of these movies to be able to say it's a phase when you want to see these, or should be. Some of these are interesting to learn about drugs effects, to learn about psychology and meaning of life and whatnot BUT I think they should be seen when you are mature enough to understand them enough (around 21 i would say) because a teenager aged 16 to 19 could maybe take wrong steps or even be inspired by such movies and act recklessly (i've seen and experienced some of that). So my idea is that is good they exist and that they serve for a purpose; but to watch only this stuff would be just plain wrong in my idea. And i like the comment about you are what you watch (i.e. to make it funny if u do watch too much porn you tend to have maniacal attitudes towards girls, if you watch too many documentaries about flowers you start to be a little gay, stuff like this.. please this side note funnily and not be offended). But enough with the crap, the list of the psychotic movies i grew up with or liked when younger were: 1 a clockwork orange 2 someone flew over a cuckoo nest 3 2001 space odyssey (i seriously think this is psychotic too) 4 natural born killers 5 requiem for a dream 6 pi 7 a movie on child abuse and traffic of kids in south America (this one was heavy, really heavy, they were injecting heroin to kids to make them shut up and have sex with them, extremely disturbing, but luckily i cant remember its name,as i would never recommend this one to anybody, i felt terrible for days with the will to KILL everyone who was a child molester) 8 and others i can't really remember now. so my advice is: skip this list of movies if you can and watch instead: 1 Baraka 2 Koyaanisqatsi 3 Naqoyqatsi 4 Powaqqatsi 5 Earth (2007) 6 and then do some charity. your life will eveolve to the next step. i promise you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCrow Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 JonCrow and @reyu both have a point. I am a fan up to some point of this kind of movies but i think i have seen enough of these movies to be able to say it's a phase when you want to see these, or should be. Some of these are interesting to learn about drugs effects, to learn about psychology and meaning of life and whatnot BUT I think they should be seen when you are mature enough to understand them enough (around 21 i would say) because a teenager aged 16 to 19 could maybe take wrong steps or even be inspired by such movies and act recklessly (i've seen and experienced some of that). So my idea is that is good they exist and that they serve for a purpose; but to watch only this stuff would be just plain wrong in my idea. And i like the comment about you are what you watch (i.e. to make it funny if u do watch too much porn you tend to have maniacal attitudes towards girls, if you watch too many documentaries about flowers you start to be a little gay, stuff like this.. please this side note funnily and not be offended). But enough with the crap, the list of the psychotic movies i grew up with or liked when younger were: 1 a clockwork orange 2 someone flew over a cuckoo nest 3 2001 space odyssey (i seriously think this is psychotic too) 4 natural born killers 5 requiem for a dream 6 pi 7 a movie on child abuse and traffic of kids in south America (this one was heavy, really heavy, they were injecting heroin to kids to make them shut up and have sex with them, extremely disturbing, but luckily i cant remember its name,as i would never recommend this one to anybody, i felt terrible for days with the will to KILL everyone who was a child molester) 8 and others i can't really remember now. so my advice is: skip this list of movies if you can and watch instead: 1 Baraka 2 Koyaanisqatsi 3 Naqoyqatsi 4 Powaqqatsi 5 Earth (2007) 6 and then do some charity. your life will eveolve to the next step. i promise you Your first list of films I personally don't consider to be psychotic at all. It's obviously very subjective of course. In fact nowadays I find some of them fairly tame and ordinary as far as mental concepts go. Your second list I absolutely love and have seen them all many times. After coming back from my very first non-sectarian meditation retreat many years ago I remember watching a film where a dude "just" got shot and bloody hell it slammed me. I'd seen this thousands of times before. Made me wonder very deeply about desensitisation. I started playing a First Person Shooter recently where I had to shoot a guy who was sleeping in his bed and I really didn't want to do it. I NEVER said to ignore the darker aspects of our being, it's incredibly important to be completely aware of all of that side to oneself and bring it all into the light of bare awareness and understanding as completely as is possible for transmutation. It's fantastic food for growth, but do we need to add to our own voluminous material in a senseless way through unnecescary but addictive and pointless media for the sake of getting a kick? The west is great at stuffing all this negative personal shit under the rug, perhaps that's why it comes through vicariously in our media, as an outlet. So long as it's out there, seemingly outside and seemingly away it's "OK" though, but don't dare look at it inside of you and claim responsibility, how scary. Look at how many people would crumble or be incredibly bored or traumatised if forced to be in their own mental company for a week with no other people, drugs, books and magazines, TV's or screens to keep their minds occupied. All the shit can start coming to the surface for a party. There's an incredible ammount of personal energy, empathy and potential for growth by bringing full-awareness and even meditation/contempletion to these darker areas. Dwelling on them without balance or hiding it is to stand still or recede somewhat. The type of psychotic film I was pitching my earlier comments toward were films with maiming, gore, torture and senseless graphic imagery. Drills, saws, hooks etc applied to the human body, that sort of thing. Putting babies in microwaves, appendages slowly immersed in deep fryers, skullfucking old men and women after sledgehammering some puppies. These films with no form of philosophical backing or balance to the film other than how far can we shock you and how much of this imagery can I take in and feel it's OK, this is art, inspiration? In fact a few years ago when my conciousness was at an earlier stage of development I watched some of this stuff in highly sensitive altered states and while I was fine with it, it just seemed like a massive waste of human potential, mental potential and a waste of the wonder and beauty that is conciousness, especially as this mind matter, that everyone shares, is broadened, deepened, balanced, sensitised and has risen above/transcended or transmutated the beastial and selfish/egoic tendencies. I'm not talking about cliched hippy new age peace and love spirituality here I'm talking about the potential for development and refinement that's inherent in every single mind through very simple training, aspiration, recognising our responsibility and right view. The reward is an increase in power and ability to conciously do and be free and naturally sharing of this gift with others. It takes huge ammounts of effort. Just as much as it takes to become an award winning physicist, some get by easier than others, but far out is it worth it, this is the lens we view everything through and it's all too often wasted, stuffed into the corner or put into slavery. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somseensee Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 if you watch too many documentaries about flowers you start to be a little gay, stuff like this.. please this side note funnily and not be offended). Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@reyu Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Your first list of films I personally don't consider to be psychotic at all. It's obviously very subjective of course. In fact nowadays I find some of them fairly tame and ordinary as far as mental concepts go. Your second list I absolutely love and have seen them all many times. After coming back from my very first non-sectarian meditation retreat many years ago I remember watching a film where a dude "just" got shot and bloody hell it slammed me. I'd seen this thousands of times before. Made me wonder very deeply about desensitisation. I started playing a First Person Shooter recently where I had to shoot a guy who was sleeping in his bed and I really didn't want to do it. I NEVER said to ignore the darker aspects of our being, it's incredibly important to be completely aware of all of that side to oneself and bring it all into the light of bare awareness and understanding as completely as is possible for transmutation. It's fantastic food for growth, but do we need to add to our own voluminous material in a senseless way through unnecescary but addictive and pointless media for the sake of getting a kick? The west is great at stuffing all this negative personal shit under the rug, perhaps that's why it comes through vicariously in our media, as an outlet. So long as it's out there, seemingly outside and seemingly away it's "OK" though, but don't dare look at it inside of you and claim responsibility, how scary. Look at how many people would crumble or be incredibly bored or traumatised if forced to be in their own mental company for a week with no other people, drugs, books and magazines, TV's or screens to keep their minds occupied. All the shit can start coming to the surface for a party. There's an incredible ammount of personal energy, empathy and potential for growth by bringing full-awareness and even meditation/contempletion to these darker areas. Dwelling on them without balance or hiding it is to stand still or recede somewhat. The type of psychotic film I was pitching my earlier comments toward were films with maiming, gore, torture and senseless graphic imagery. Drills, saws, hooks etc applied to the human body, that sort of thing. Putting babies in microwaves, appendages slowly immersed in deep fryers, skullfucking old men and women after sledgehammering some puppies. These films with no form of philosophical backing or balance to the film other than how far can we shock you and how much of this imagery can I take in and feel it's OK, this is art, inspiration? In fact a few years ago when my conciousness was at an earlier stage of development I watched some of this stuff in highly sensitive altered states and while I was fine with it, it just seemed like a massive waste of human potential, mental potential and a waste of the wonder and beauty that is conciousness, especially as this mind matter, that everyone shares, is broadened, deepened, balanced, sensitised and has risen above/transcended or transmutated the beastial and selfish/egoic tendencies. I'm not talking about cliched hippy new age peace and love spirituality here I'm talking about the potential for development and refinement that's inherent in every single mind through very simple training, aspiration, recognising our responsibility and right view. The reward is an increase in power and ability to conciously do and be free and naturally sharing of this gift with others. It takes huge ammounts of effort. Just as much as it takes to become an award winning physicist, some get by easier than others, but far out is it worth it, this is the lens we view everything through and it's all too often wasted, stuffed into the corner or put into slavery. Jon I like reading your posts Jon. Inspiring and interesting. You really thought this one through. But what is a psychotic movie for you, better put, what's the definition of a "psychotic movie"? The ones you refer to in the second half of your post just seem like some B-Hollywood horror/slasher movies. Except for the usual psycho there is really nothing psychotic about it. These are purely films to entertain the audience and they should be watched like that. On the other hand Requiem for a dream or Clockwork Orange are more than just entertaining pictures. They offer you a certain vision of the crazy reality we live in. These pictures trigger you and force you to think outside the box, remind you of the fact that reality isn't black or white. Though you claim these are not psychotic movies? It's hardly a movie genre but if it was these movies would fit right in imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCrow Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Well to give a short answer. Definition of psychotic is: "characterized by or afflicted with psychosis" and definition of psychosis is: "a mental disorder characterized by symptoms, such as delusions or hallucinations, that indicate impaired contact with reality". I'd say our modern culture or at least aspects of it has immature and impaired contact with reality through lack of understanding/ignorance. So depending on a cultures lack of breadth, depth and balance/harmony of vision then if a film or presentation is inline with and to varying degrees if that film perpetuates that lack then it has an element or elements of psychosis. The better films you're talking about often try to address this lack of balance etc and stimulate a lesser state of psychosis. Something like say Baraka(This is a presentation of various world imagery with sound and music) extends much further outside of the box, by saying much less specifically it ends up saying much more, is much less on cultural rails, and more fully transcends culture and is more open to interpretation that's dependant on the individuals capacity, to a degree. Sorry if this post is a little muddled. It's 5 in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@reyu Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Well to give a short answer. Definition of psychotic is: "characterized by or afflicted with psychosis" and definition of psychosis is: "a mental disorder characterized by symptoms, such as delusions or hallucinations, that indicate impaired contact with reality". I'd say our modern culture or at least aspects of it has immature and impaired contact with reality through lack of understanding/ignorance. So depending on a cultures lack of breadth, depth and balance/harmony of vision then if a film or presentation is inline with and to varying degrees if that film perpetuates that lack then it has an element or elements of psychosis. The better films you're talking about often try to address this lack of balance etc and stimulate a lesser state of psychosis. Something like say Baraka(This is a presentation of various world imagery with sound and music) extends much further outside of the box, by saying much less specifically it ends up saying much more, is much less on cultural rails, and more fully transcends culture and is more open to interpretation that's dependant on the individuals capacity, to a degree. Sorry if this post is a little muddled. It's 5 in the morning. NOTE: What is reality nowadays and the lack of contact with it? I've noticed people having psychotic symptoms are searching for more depth in their lives society has failed to give them. So they create their own. Similar to what you said Jon. I'm not an expert about the matter of psychosis but have had some experiences with it in the past. It all depends on how you look at it. Movies with psychopaths/psycho's in it just shows one extreme variation of psychosis. Often people think this is what being psychotic is all about when in reality very few psychotic patients are labelled as psychopaths. Movies with a psycho in it usually! don't tell you anything about psychosis. It just tells you how fucked up things can get, blow it way out of proportion and in comes the horror. Again these pictures are plain old horror pictures made to shock(read entertain) you. The pictures I talked about go way deeper. The emphasis lies in exploring the inner psyche rather than the shocking element. That's what makes "psychotic movies" interesting movies and not just entertaining. I haven't seen Baraka but have done some research about it. If I'm not mistaken Baraka is a DOCUMENTARY about transcending culture and specific beliefs and therefore can not be compared with a movie trying to follow a coherent(well mostly ) story. It's a totally different way of approaching things. If you don't use these distinctions you can find elements of psychosis nearly everywhere and label it as such. This would be my definition of "psychotic movies" and is ONE point of view. This is turning into a very interesting thread if you ask me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCrow Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Nice post. I think you had a better definition of psychotic in your mind before this thread began than I did. I've got a few ideas for a semi-reply but if I get started now I'll be late for work. There's a horrible and wonderful aspect to words and definitions in that you can split hairs over them for seemingly endless time. If you've got people whom you can do this with and the parties involved don't get defensive or offensive it can be very constructive. Baraka is by poorly-pigeon-holed definition a documentary, in that it's factual imagery that's taken place, but it really is much more than that. The images have been arranged in a certain way. It transcends that documentary definition somewhat. I hope you get the chance to see it and it's companions as I think you'd enjoy it alot. It's pretty (and) psychotic. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@reyu Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 There's a horrible and wonderful aspect to words and definitions in that you can split hairs over them for seemingly endless time. If you've got people whom you can do this with and the parties involved don't get defensive or offensive it can be very constructive. +1 Baraka is by poorly-pigeon-holed definition a documentary, in that it's factual imagery that's taken place, but it really is much more than that. The images have been arranged in a certain way. It transcends that documentary definition somewhat. You're probably right, I took the info from Wikipedia. I've just seen some clips from youtube and it looks very interesting. I'm gonna watch this one for sure. I just wanted to point out the difference in approach. Feel free to reply fully to my post earlyer on, that is if you find the time to do so. We are cleary living in a different time-zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCrow Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 If we go by your definition of a psychotic film then I'm pretty sure we agree on what we're talking about The other type of film, the B-grade slasher, horrific shock, mutilation, deranged concept was, I believe, the inspiration for Skyclan having started this thread. Earlier in the thread, I just wanted to know, aside from enjoying the film, how does he find that style of film inspiring. What feelings go along with this inspiration? He might have just been mucking about with words and throwing them round flippantly, or if not I just wanted to hear about it. Maybe even to learn something, who knows. What are your aspirations in life if this is inspirational? I also said that I found some of this gratuitous imagery unnecessary and a waste. I agree that it's entertaining and a part of me can't drag myself from watching. It's a lot of twisted fun. Another part of me feels it's a total waste of precious time. These images resonate for a very long time after and some may say are stored in certain areas of the mind forever whether we conciously know it or not. What aspect or aspects of the human primal being could they be stimulating in some people's psychology? To engage in this imagery is to waste some of mind's fantastic potential by feeding it poor mental food imo. There's enough shit in the mind and world to deal with already. I don't know whether you've ever tried any hallucinogens but one aspect of them can be that if you watch something or play a video game then you can be drawn into the world of the game or movie. You can actually feel what's happening vivdly on the screen as being yourself. You and it are one. Hallucinogen facilitation aside, I believe and have experienced this as a natural aspect of the mind itself or mind as being reality itself. The more the psychology is refined, unified, developed, focused and completed, the more powerful it gets, but also much more sensitive to harmony and balance, so knocks and jolts like viewing imagery such as this can be a little confronting. Think of how easily a bad trip can be triggered when the mind is ultra-sensitive and under the influence of LSD or mushrooms. It's all about set and setting and this rings true for our mind in any state of being, it really doesn't take a hallucinogenic compound to work this out. I personally take this whole mind thing pretty seriously, and for good reason, because it's the world for us. It's crucial to work with it as constructively as possible. Some aspects of this mind are incredibly delicate, fine and subtle, much too beautiful and sacred to poke at it with a demented stick and laugh for sheer kicks. P.S. Go ahead and have your fun with deranged flicks and maybe some mushroom tea, I might be reading this about YOU next week. Jking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anakoluth Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 I'm not really a fan of this type of movie anymore as I find the imagery unnecessary these days. You are what you watch to some extent. But there's a movie that's just been released or soon to be released call "The Human Centipede". It's about a psychotic guy who joins three hapless victims together surgically arse to mouth. There are sequels planned. Here's a on youtube. Enjoy! Ehm, sorry, but this isn't meant to be a serious work of art, right??? Sounds to me like a caricature, if it weren't for the trailer which makes a serious appearance indeed. It seems to me that this might be the uppermost limit of ridiculousness. I'm sorry if you're really interested in that movie, but I'm not sure whether sorry for having disrespected your taste or sorry for your soul I read that the director came up with this film after discussing possible punishment for child abusers with some friends. I tell ya, if I made a movie out of every stupid idea that comes into my mind...o Lord, please help us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@reyu Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 Anakoluth, or you took the wrong quote or you didn't understand what Joncrow was saying. He clearly stated he is NOT a fan of these films because of horrific/psychotic imagery used in these films. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyclan Posted June 3, 2010 Author Share Posted June 3, 2010 The other type of film, the B-grade slasher, horrific shock, mutilation, deranged concept was, I believe, the inspiration for Skyclan having started this thread. Earlier in the thread, I just wanted to know, aside from enjoying the film, how does he find that style of film inspiring. What feelings go along with this inspiration? He might have just been mucking about with words and throwing them round flippantly, or if not I just wanted to hear about it. Maybe even to learn something, who knows. What are your aspirations in life if this is inspirational? P.S. Go ahead and have your fun with deranged flicks and maybe some mushroom tea, I might be reading this about YOU next week. Jking I agree with you sir re: the flippant and desultory nature of my terms. And if that somehow creates inimical influence or just plain insult on this thread's users, please accept my apologies. However, i stand by what i said about being inspired by this film. As a SR. Psych tech working in the prison system, i encounter different facades of human frailty on a daily basis. And it is a personal satisfaction as well as a vocational endeavor to find or discover new "behaviors" or even modalities accompanying it. Additionally, To be able to contrast and sometimes infer these attributes both from the zenith to the nadir of a person's behavior. Other Opinions may not be similar as mine but this one's mine and i control and allow it to affect me. That responsibility is subjective to each one of us. Thus, in the end, we look back at these threads we see different thoughts but does it contribute to an understanding? or it promotes bias? subjective, yet fun as always. i respect all of your thoughts. peace.keep it psy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@reyu Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 Additionally, To be able to contrast and sometimes infer these attributes both from the zenith to the nadir of a person's behavior. I was anticipating this post skyclan and I'm glad you did. I can understand somewhat what you're saying but this qoute above goes beyond my comprehension. Is it possible to explain this further and dig a little deeper. And what's a psych tech? A psychologist or a psychiatrist cause I never heard of it before. If these movies help you in any way in understanding and therefore helping people with a specific disorder or frailty, and I think you mean psychopaths, please correct me if I'm wrong, or even help in better understanding yourself and others then who can be against that. Please note that I am here to learn and not to justify my views and opinions and thus create bias. I am always willing to change and be as openminded as possible to come to greater knowledge if that's the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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