mars Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 Hello So i'll be very explicit and direct, as always If some sections of psynews are dead, that's actually not our fault. the servers at free.fr hosting the site are more than saturated. If the forums still work (alternatively sometimes), that's because they're still on lmy home ADSL line, but the quality of the line is bad, so each time the server gets disconnected, it takes a while to reconnect....and as this machine is also the name server for psynews, a disconnection also deprives you with www.psynews.org (though, the alias goatrance.free.fr is still available). If some of you encounter failures while posting messages on the forum, that's a known bug i've been hunting for a long time but i never got the time to find it...actually a forum upgrade might solve this. the problem is to find the time, as i'll explain later. Well some of you might say - You : Why not move the whole psynews site to the same server as the forums ? - Me : That's a good idea, an excellent idea, but neither of Children or me has the time (but we WILL do that eventually), which leads me to the second part of this post. OK, some of you know i now have someone in my life, so she diverted me a lot from my keyboards, and i also moved to a new home in which there was a lot of work to do, which took me almost all the time i had remaining for psynews activities. on top of that i'm working on some ultra shitty project for my work, with a lot of pressure. The last 6 months have been very hard. So i'm somewhat connected to psynews, but not like before. i'm like a non active member, as i also stopped all kinds of development for psynews 2 in the same period ; same for the parties, i got disgusted of the lousy parties here in france (and also the ever-the-same-lousy-atomic-pulse-crap) just at the same time, which didn't improve the situation, so i switched from one party a week to one every two months...i'll concentrate on some festivals. - You : So why not simply leave psynews, or worse, the scene ? - Me : Because i swore i would drive psynews 2 to its release. - You : But you just said psynews2 is idle, so please leave your place to the younger ones - Me : You have a point, but i also swore to myself i would resume the development as soon as possible after the move, the works, the crappy project, etc....and that time will come by the end of the month, so let's see if i can handle it. Now the Children case : no answers, no updates, nothing...a ghost ? No, simply Children is facing exactly the same things as i did, with a 2-months shift. And he also changed his work (now he works for the interactive/web dept at the french television). On top of that, he has no internet connection so far in his home, so he is more than idle. - You : same for Children as for Mars, 26 years old, time to leave the internet and have a decent life. Time to let the psynews to other people. - Me : You still have a point, and i share that point of view. I do think Children and me should leave psynews totally...wait wait wait...i don't contradict myself. Above i said i was still there for psynews2, not psynews1. The only problem is to find people interested in doing that. Look : the psynews1 site is totally static, no backoffice, lots of things to take care of all the time. So far, we recruited some moderators for the forums, and none of them could handle that task seriously long enough to convince us. So, as for the psynews themselves....... - You : you can talk, YOU cannot handle it ANYmore, others can obviously do better than nothing. -Me : I know. We already have a guy to take care of the EPs, it's now up to Children to say yes for all the other parts of the site. Else, personnally, i'd rather see the site to close *except for the forums of course, and for a while only* ; or maybe keep only a small small news page only....don't know. And now the delicate part : the contest nr2 & nr3 - The contest nr2 results are known, and our fellow label, inpsyde media, even scheduled the release of the second compilation. However, either for economic reasons (you know, the economy of the scne is going wrong, just read the article related to this on isratrance), or for personal reasons, i think the label owners, Valerio and Guissepe are no longer interested in working with us, and i don't think this compil will be released now. I also don't think another label will be willing to replace them...[understand what you want]. I thought about setting up a label expecially for this, with a limited number of releases, seriously distributed, and i also planned to ask for my friends at Procyon records to explain me everything on that subject, but with my move and the works, i have no money for that. Maybe we should try to set a business such as the Schlabbaduerst ReKkords one : send burnt copies to the ones who ask for it and pay a little fee....why not. - The contest nr3 has started and stopped quietly, like the rest. Sorry not to have informed you. Actually people have uploaded a lot on the upload server, my server, and we thank all competitors. We had a deal with some friend of ours who had some spare storage and bandwidth to give, for you to download, listen and appreciate the tracks...but the owners of the server and the bandwidth there didn't think the same and shortly after the begining of the third contest, we became out of download server. We tried to hire some space somewhere,but it has a co$t, so we asked for the help of inpsyde-media, with no result ! Else, particular people couldn't provide us with a regular and bandwidth compliant server. So...............ok my idea is not to let you apart, take that space for 1 or 2 months on our personnal funds, let you appreciate, fill 1 or 2 cds with the winning tracks and use the same distribution method for the 3rd contest as the one we'll choose for the 2nd contest. Conclusion As you can see i'm a bit blasé, moody, dark, whatever, in my explanations, but the roots of the problem aren't. I'm just ashamed and furious *about myself* not to be able to deliver you with what we delivered with so much pleasure, in 2000 and 2001. Psynews V2, i swear, will be born, and will regenerate all those wonderful feelings I swear we won't let this site to die like that !!! My last words go to Children. Please come on this thread, and let's take decisions altogether. Meanwhile, all useful and constructive comments ans solutions are appreciated. Thanks. fabien 'mars' marsaud / psynews / paris / france / earth / universe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zaldonite Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 I do simpatise we all have to go through it sometimes in hour life when we are to damn busy ... all i know is that this site is one of the super informative and educational of all specialy "what is goa' just gives me goose pimpils .....mmm keep up the good work love peace & psychedelia to you and all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Reconstructed Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 Been reading Psynews for a good long while, and I can't thank you enough for just having it here in the beginning. The forums have been a great place to meet and chat with people who have the same musical interests as me, a demographic that is pretty damn small in ths US. We all know that RL matters are more important than updating a website and I just wanted to extend my thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ivan Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 same as above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest krize Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 Nicely written Mars, and even though some parts of the site is not up-to date , the forum lives on and its very active IMHO !! Well good luck with psynews2 ) Releasing the contest cd should be done like SchlabberDuerst does it, home made (but with style) !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lemmiwinks (moondancer) Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 awww man... this brings tears to my eyes... maybe we're all condemned to this faith? Find a partner in life, buy a house, get a job, maybe have a kid and forget all about our scene, trade going to Samorathaki with going to Disneyland for the kids? Damn, never thought of it that way... But I guess we must move on with our lives... Anyway, for what it' worth, I think this site could very much stay alive if you stripped it off to only the goa reviews section and this forum. We could manage without the rest IMO. And I suppose now would not be a good time to mention the psynews.org t-shirts and Psynews party No. 2 which never came either....? SMI²LE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spacemonkey Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 aargh lemmiwinks dont talk like that!! it gives me chills down my spine! for the site, well mars people change and move on, ntohing to do about it. the site could indeed be stripped down, but still maintennance would be in order. the fact that your discussing these matters still , shows your dedecation and also show why this site is (was) so great. if it has to end eventually it will just have to, if noone is able to step up, and pick up where you guys left nothing to do about it, (although this wont make me less said :-(. follow those roads that have a heart, if this road has lost your heart leave it, our own hearts will have to find a new road then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoebis Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 Lemmiwinks, Mars still loves psy-trance and will NOT go to Disneyland, but some festivals instead But I was here since the beginning and Mars and Children and everybody did a GREAT job with this site, it's a great source of information, specially all the cd reviews are much better as on any other site! So I think the site should stay online but maybe a little banner on "main/news" with the upcoming P2 info would be good enough to explain! I would love to do more for the site, but just like the others my archeology studies take ALOT of time... In september I will have more time, but I'm not able to do HTML etc, so that's But I will review more, update the What is Goa section, make some interviews, upcoming cds info etc... anyway, it's OUR job to keep the site alive! As long people post on the forum and keep it alive... THAT long Psynews will live Bom Shankar and waiting for version 2 of the site, I have all the time of the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khogg Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 Ever since TRIP died, this has been my most visited website. For provding this great site as long as you have, I must also say thanks. I truely hope you can find a way to keep it going. Like Lemmiwinks said, you could strip it down to the reviews and the forum and the best two parts of the site would survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest llazi Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 Hmm, I see mars got a point here. I love psynews and I would really like to see this website alive again, so I hope someone like me would give up some free time and seriously take care about this. Now, i've got a solution for the contest. I work as a graphic designer and I would love to get involved in this project caus I think there are a lot of tracks worth releasing. Now i'm able to do the whole graphics/booklet print/cd burning/cd printing/packaging. I'm ready to pay my self for this. What is left, mastering, distribution .. is of course very important too. So if someone is willing to do the mastering it would be great. I know it's a lot of work but hey, bringing a finished cd to the psy scene it's like a dream come true for most of us . I'm also sure, knowing the huge psynews community all over the world, that we can find lot's of people who can advertise around (with premade flyer/sticker that i will prepare) or ever sell the cd. If the selling goes well, then everyone involved could get a piece of it. Tell me all your thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kiph T. Elephant Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 Yeah, let's hope this site stays alive. BTW Ilazi are you talking about the second competition or about this third one? I think for the second comp cd, which wasn't released (not yet at least), there was already a cover selected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest llazi Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 I'm not talking about the cover. The design can be done by someone else if needed. I'm talking about the whole production Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Matt BooM! Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 Hi guys ! Please send me a copy of the compilation # 2 and I will see if its anything that we could possibly release. No promises .... but I will give it a serious listen ! booms, Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest krize Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 mmm nice one, lets hope BooM Records wants it )) PSYNEWS IS ALIIIIIIVE !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ktrance Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 Good to hear some info mars. I completely understand your predicament, but thats life, follow your path and enjoy it Anoebis: When/if you start updating the site and you need some help with the html, let me know, its no problem. Kudos at Boom Peace people -Ktrance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoebis Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 Matt, I will try to bring a copy of it for you tomorrow let's trade it for Digital Mandala :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ariela Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 i think the Goa Artists Info section is very importent to, when i got in to psytrance a few years ago that section was alot of help! and the forum helped to from time to time wich i hardly wrot anything ther but i was ther all the time reading ;-) so the forum the reviews section and the goa artists info are the 3 importent things here and i think the reviews need to be free like befor with out the loging thing. in short i love psynews! and i want to see it alive and working like all of u here! and i have a feeling it will be greater then ever!!!!) cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest joe Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 Yea, as said, you guys have done a great job. An idea I think maybe worth a try is to unmoderate the reviews, new releases, and the rest. Im not sure how you interface to the site mars as is.. thru a nice gui or if you hand code alot of stuff.. but allowing public access to one of these features for a week or two just to see how things go would be good. Chaos may ensue but its worth an experiment leaving content updating to the community, at least until youve got the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmiwinks Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 "but allowing public access to one of these features for a week or two just to see how things go would be good" err... that's why they became moderated!!! People were posting so much crap in there... most of the times the "reviewers" never even listened to the artist!!! (check out Elysium's albums reviews to get a picture of what would happen). But of course, reviews with a lot of crap in them are better than no review section at all SMI²LE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Matta Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 Thanks for taking the time to update us, mars. Was getting weird there for a while not knowing what was going on with the site. And thanks for a great place to hang out, all the great information, as well as all the hard work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pedro Posted June 7, 2003 Share Posted June 7, 2003 Hey and don't worry about the age thing, I am 36 and still at it !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest moni Posted June 7, 2003 Share Posted June 7, 2003 don't worry mars... not many forum-ppl are complaining people should have better things to do in their lives than complaining for not-updated sites anyway, i am not complaining i also met a cool guy, whom i have also distracted from the keyboard love is great and besides, each thing should get solved at it's time, and you (and lil children of course) know that "priorities come first". still, don't get too lazy a good quality thing will work by itself, as long as we all (in this case, at least 51% you) make it work but all things get old in time, so bring "new" thing in, to maintain the fire burning. moni / off topic forum / psynews / internet / sibiu / romania / europe / earth / milky way / universe and a @}--,--`--- to EA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest moni Posted June 7, 2003 Share Posted June 7, 2003 who the hell are these "You" and "Me" guys? can i get their email or an autograph or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Contest 3 Posted June 7, 2003 Share Posted June 7, 2003 sO i wanna understand somethin.. there is a 3rd contest ? or not ?.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmiwinks Posted June 7, 2003 Share Posted June 7, 2003 no... SMI²LE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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