Spicy_RolL Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 I don't know is it goa trance or not, but I love album "A.B. Didgeridoo Oblivion - Liquid". So I don't care It's really unique unbelievable trippy, sometimes scarry stuff. It will be fun to listen more didgeridoo trance, or synthesis imitation with so powerful psychoactive activity. Yeah, you`re totally right describing this. Magic and scarry thing! This guy (Sean Candy) is Australian, and always plays didgeridoo live with electronic support. But there`s one big disappointment in his music - I definitely don`t like breakbeat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spicy_RolL Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaqIVBdvm6c Well, it`s not much about dark and acid sounds, but more about songwriting and storytelling. This brilliant track IMO is a masterpiece of true melodic and trippy goa trance. It`s a music! Perfect in all from beginning to the end: kick, percussions, bass line, layers, melodies... Many modern artists have a huge "armory" of sounds and effects, but I wish to hear from them such clever and high skilled composing, gathering all this "armory" like Miranda did in this track! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideffect... Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 I want rolling melodies, I always liked this part of Mystica, starting @ 1min10sec http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8Xqbmg1sOw And maybe some Bypass Unit - Liquid Prisma ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i0C2YQMwhs I like the fact that goatrance ' talks'! And more Tribal trance, we never had enough... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somazoid Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 In the future I'd like to hear more tracks that leave me in an uneasy mood. Tracks with emotional disturbance for instance, subversive tracks that are painful to sit through but make feel elevated at the same time. Except for some Filteria, Amanians tracks 2 new-school gems comes close to my demand and they are Essential Trip - In My World, Merr0w - Citrus Circus. 4 oldies to illustrate the idea: Mono Substance - Midnight Sunrise http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-uo6tKbJa0 Mono Substance - Sadness & Anger http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAZLuwpvu9c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somazoid Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Battle of the Future Buddhas - Mr. Fantastic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRAhT_RIrtc The Muses Rapt - Spiritual Healing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTxUwDGRHqw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideffect... Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 The baseline is often not variated. The latest goatrance releases do switch baselines from track to track (not all of them) but within the entire release it's imo mediocre. I'm still waiting when they start 'playing' with the kicks, double kicks, going back and for... Dimension 5 - the y principle is a 'one' good example of what I'm trying to say... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQGnhEZlk0o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoLoUr DoTZ Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Quirk used a lot of percussion made melody, or melodies done out of percussive elements. Very effective on the dancefloor. and also very funky. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCnMRZWsHZ8&feature=youtu.be Also they have a few tunes with real sounds recorded and worked out with the sampler. I remembered reading and interview were they would confirm that Ping is a pin pong game somewhere in Turkey. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aKEzwJlv1U&feature=youtu.be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepXcode Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Tracks, that give you a feeling of having one piece of energy: Disco Volante - Chameleon ('96 Transient) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSZ1GqJiY7w Afrotrance - Spiritual Energy ('94 Harthouse) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQjePtGnsvM Like the absolutely concentrated energy. IMO top energy tracks. I know one more, even better, but I wouldn't post it, because I don't "own" it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollylovesgoa Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 I'm just gonna post some examples for you (maybe you missed something) Can you please explain this ''polished'' meaning, are you reffering to mastering quality or something else. Asking that because I was reading few months ago around here how some people complain (including myself) on mastering issues in a lot of releases. Few examples that I think of (and which are IMHO acid-driven): #1 | #2 | | #4 | | Only nitzho stuff that I've heard comes from Sita or Ezel Ebed (plus few tracks from Agneton/Goalien/Pandemonium on Phototropic's compilations) Spiritual Antares - Exodus Ra - 9th Goasia - Dancing With The Blue Spirit Afgin - Astral Experience Somnesia - Rainbow Source Sci-Fi E-Mantra/Suufi Astrolab - Astrograms Artifact303 - Back To Space Psychedelic Quest - Alternate Constellations V/A - Dimensional Gateway Red Gravity - MLDNRG V/A - Pure Planet series Sky Technology - Time and Space Tribal Well, there i really can't think of any good examples, maybe Grand-Cheff Voodoo GoAttack or NK47 - Outer Space Shaman, but it's not tribalistic that much Anyhow, just wanted to say that I agree with your toughts in some parts, especially that this scene is maybe overloaded with positive/sunshine goa trance and we're maybe don't have more twisted/darker stuff around here, and I hope that we'll have some kind of balance in near future By too polished I don't particularly mean in mastering, more in the instrument choice, there's no organic feel, old school Goa feels so alive, but this new stuff feels distinctly manufactured. Your examples of theme based music are nice, however I still don't think they touch the impact the themes had in the nineties. The themes serve more of an additional purpose, names of songs and albums etc, when you compare the most sci-fi influenced track from today (or any) with for example, Aliens by Elysium, Total Eclipse or Eat Static, there is no comparison for which is in fact more "alien" sounding. By the way, Artha is an exception in this, he is making music with a unique sound, and acid growls! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time_Trap Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 I don't know is it goa trance or not, but I love album "A.B. Didgeridoo Oblivion - Liquid". So I don't care It's really unique unbelievable trippy, sometimes scarry stuff. It will be fun to listen more didgeridoo trance, or synthesis imitation with so powerful psychoactive activity. Didgeridoo in ambient is pretty cool too. Check Tom Heasley - Desert Triptych Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veracohr Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I want rolling melodies, I always liked this part of Mystica, starting @ 1min10sec http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8Xqbmg1sOw Pretty good song, but I don't know what you're referring to. No melody starts at 1:10 in that song. There's a sound that starts at 1:10, but it's definitely not melodic and nothing I would call 'rolling'. More like 'glitchy'. I'm not really sure what 'rolling' would refer to. Sometimes I've seen people say "rolling bassline" but I don't really know what they mean by that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veracohr Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Actually this to me is a "rolling bassline": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLQnVmeigvQ Does that agree with anyone else's interpretation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmaxfactor1995 Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Actually this to me is a "rolling bassline": http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLQnVmeigvQ Does that agree with anyone else's interpretation? I don't know what interpretation, you refer. But, if I may give my interpration. This is an example of some that is trying to hard to get all the right elements of Goa. Except Goa means anything goes. So, the sound that it turned out back then was due to the fact that artist were given a safe haven from all the Progressive Trance, House, Breaks, Anthems, Techno, Tribal House, Progressive House, Hard Trance, etc. So this is what came out of that brainstorm, freedom, collaboration and isolation. Something never heard before, Something Mind-blowing. Something Misinterpreted, Sidelined, Downplayed, and underrated. Guess what? It didn't matter, that was something the record companies were dreaming of. Some awesomely marketable and money making sound. Thank God that truly great music is percieved this way until years later. When Tiesto (who the f**ck is that)? When I was in hiding did some Demigod of Electronic get created? I am sorry but if I see Hallucinogen -- Angelic Particles(DJ Tiesto Halo Remix), I will probably kill myself. Or a meteor is about to hit the Earth because if that happens, it could only signal Arman Van Geddon lol or Karmageddon. Oh wait that was actually real. But that you guys know how I feel about him. So, I think this video and many other posts are trying to compare the new with the old as the old stuff went by a set of rules. It didn't outside of dance music structure. And that is the essence...stop trying to be like someone else. No one wants to here a some new twist on the old or the next generations attempt at what they can't do. Music is very powerful and when you allow it to be natural you get some bad and some revelations. But, what many of you fail to show is the bad goa trance that came out what do yo think made the good shit so good...yin and yang the flow of the universe expands contracts in a dynamic that seeks homeostasis. I am sure Elysium can back me up or are there any other DJ's from the mid to late 90's that did Goa/Psy? Did you buy every Goa\Psy Record or did pick through them and choose a few good ones? I was at the record store on the shipment day. We listened to every track that came out and I know that at least 50% of it was shit. I don't know if that number is much higher today or that it is because no one except a few. Elysium, OOOD, for example know what it the music was. But, I know that Elysium would probably agree that it was this massive energy release from artists all over the globe. They were like today. They heard it all, they were sick of the same shit. The music the turned out wasn't heard in that way before. But, amazingly many artists from all over understood it like: Well let me give the perfect example of what I am talking about. Read the Title press play and at least listen to the what the Quoted samples say. This sums it all up. IMO http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRgj2qtSXlU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideffect... Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I don't know what interpretation, you refer. But, if I may give my interpration. This is an example of some that is trying to hard to get all the right elements of Goa. Except Goa means anything goes. So, the sound that it turned out back then was due to the fact that artist were given a safe haven from all the Progressive Trance, House, Breaks, Anthems, Techno, Tribal House, Progressive House, Hard Trance, etc. So this is what came out of that brainstorm, freedom, collaboration and isolation. Something never heard before, Something Mind-blowing. Something Misinterpreted, Sidelined, Downplayed, and underrated. Guess what? It didn't matter, that was something the record companies were dreaming of. Some awesomely marketable and money making sound. Thank God that truly great music is percieved this way until years later. When Tiesto (who the f**ck is that)? When I was in hiding did some Demigod of Electronic get created? I am sorry but if I see Hallucinogen -- Angelic Particles(DJ Tiesto Halo Remix), I will probably kill myself. Or a meteor is about to hit the Earth because if that happens, it could only signal Arman Van Geddon lol or Karmageddon. Oh wait that was actually real. But that you guys know how I feel about him. So, I think this video and many other posts are trying to compare the new with the old as the old stuff went by a set of rules. It didn't outside of dance music structure. And that is the essence...stop trying to be like someone else. No one wants to here a some new twist on the old or the next generations attempt at what they can't do. Music is very powerful and when you allow it to be natural you get some bad and some revelations. But, what many of you fail to show is the bad goa trance that came out what do yo think made the good shit so good...yin and yang the flow of the universe expands contracts in a dynamic that seeks homeostasis. I am sure Elysium can back me up or are there any other DJ's from the mid to late 90's that did Goa/Psy? Did you buy every Goa\Psy Record or did pick through them and choose a few good ones? I was at the record store on the shipment day. We listened to every track that came out and I know that at least 50% of it was shit. I don't know if that number is much higher today or that it is because no one except a few. Elysium, OOOD, for example know what it the music was. But, I know that Elysium would probably agree that it was this massive energy release from artists all over the globe. They were like today. They heard it all, they were sick of the same shit. The music the turned out wasn't heard in that way before. But, amazingly many artists from all over understood it like: Well let me give the perfect example of what I am talking about. Read the Title press play and at least listen to the what the Quoted samples say. This sums it all up. IMO Veracohr just asked for information and sharing considering rolling baselines or melodies... This is totally off topic. And all this off topic crap about this, and that, and how & blablablabla This board is about sharing ideas together, not about you! It's starting to get really boring man Can you PLEASE show some respect! Well back on topic Pretty good song, but I don't know what you're referring to. No melody starts at 1:10 in that song. There's a sound that starts at 1:10, but it's definitely not melodic and nothing I would call 'rolling'. More like 'glitchy'. I'm not really sure what 'rolling' would refer to. Sometimes I've seen people say "rolling bassline" but I don't really know what they mean by that. Rolling, How should I explain that... it's a fast pattern, so fast, that it becomes an entity that gives the 'feeling' or 'experience' becoming/being 'one sound' that it's rolling. Like those typical morning fullon baselines. Those are rolling baselines... This an example of a rolling baseline (not a rolling melody like the mystica one above), It's starts @ 2min14sec, but you should start listening @ 2min to notice it coming... I hope this helps http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHgJGQnBLcA EDIT: I did not notice your post sorry... Actually this to me is a "rolling bassline": http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLQnVmeigvQ Does that agree with anyone else's interpretation? Indeed this is also an example of a rolling baseline.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veracohr Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 OK, so a rolling bassline is a 1/6th note bassline. I can see what you're saying now, but using that term to describe that kind of bassline/riff/melody is weird to me. Doesn't fit in my mind. Done derailing the topic now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideffect... Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Done derailing the topic now. +1 off we go OK, so a rolling bassline is a 1/6th note bassline. I can see what you're saying now, but using that term to describe that kind of bassline/riff/melody is weird to me. Doesn't fit in my mind. I think I know what you mean. Rolling is very undetailed term when it comes to goatrance with all it's spirals and waves. On topic: Another Uncommon element is the funny element. Goatrance sometimes had this funny stops, and here we go again parts. It's hard to describe them... Green nuns of revolution - Klunk is a good example http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=161HIOLCaxI Transwave - rezwalker (londen live rmx) is an example... @ 2min40 sec http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZHV5Nilhwk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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