Guest Bahamut Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 I'm gonna be very negative about 'Entheogenic - Entheogenic' It sounds professional and all, but that's about it... oh and some of the vocals were nice. But the melodies... they suck! Listen to them closely, even I can come up with better melodies... especially the fast Shponglish synth-melodies are a joke. And what's up with the boring basslines and General Midi drumkit throughout the entire album? The music just goes on and on... tracks are very much alike and there's not a single SUBTLE melody or moment. Sorry, I had to give my opinion. I like lots of ambient including psy-ambient, but this is simply a bad and cheezy Shpongle rip-off. It's not that I'm such a big Shpongle fan, but I can't helping comparing. I expected a lot after the positive reviews, but what a major disappointment this is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike D Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Well I"d say this is why, in the credits of the cd, Shpongle gets a special thanks! I agree it isn;t that mind blowing but it is nice to chcuk on at home when you are reading abook, does't but in on your thoughts or concentration, just sounds good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Towelie Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 i agree .. but i also hate those meaningles vocal samples, same goes for the new album. I can see their vision but they dont have skills to reach it both albums are boring as hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest --==1400MiLeS==-- Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Sorry mate, have to disagree strongly here. Not a subtle melody in sight? Since the release of this album I have yet to find a melody that tops the flowing synth in 'Beyond Zero' although ISHQ comes close with 'Sky Blue'. Those goa-ish melodic breaks work excellently with the ethnic voices and general slow pace imo...but thats just me then. Surely it resembles Shpongle's debut somewhat but entheogenic get away with it as the songwriting is simply up to those standards. The weirdness factor isn't yet and that is the only thing thing that prevents entheogenic from total greatness imo. Nevertheless, its pretty rare to find such 'complete' compositions on a chillout album. Thats where Entheogenic shines imo. I was somewhat disappointed by the 2nd album though as too many studio tricks from the debut were recycled. Thats why Taruna's World Fusion II is my chillout pick for 2003 thus far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hippie Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 ?? .....i realy love Entheogenic ...very relaxing for listening ...smooth ..floating ....that`s not reason to be bored ...Shpongle (my favourite) is different ..in some way ....they have those powerful/impulsive samples, melodies ..voices .most of their songs suddenly changes rhytm and give whole another story to the song ..what i especially love ....both are amazing in their own way ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Matta Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Agree with Bahamut. Not a fan of Entheogenic. Nice to know I'm not the only one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 I coudn't disagree more, the first Entheogenic album is melodicaly one of the best i own. The overall feeling of the music is also something that stands out. The second album is more psychedelic and in my opinion, beats most of what Shpongle ever did. I would say that they are different in many ways. Entheogenic became more psychedelic and Shpongle unfortunately became less psychedelic. Though both artists are way above the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bahamut Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 interesting to read your opinions, which I respect of course phew, I was afraid I'd be the only one who doesn't like it perhaps I was a bit too negative but I can't imagine I will like this after some more listens... anyway, I guess there's no point in arguing about it but thx for replying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zaramatu Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Nah, I don't really get it either. The first album that is. I like Shulman, Ishq and Twilight Circus Dub Sound System more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khogg Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 And I thought I was the only one! I listened to the samples at saikosounds and thought: "this sounds okay, but..." Then I read the reviews and people raved about it like it was the best thing ever, so I bought it hoping it would be as good as they said... and it wasn't. I've only listened to it a few times because it's so annoying to listen to with those over the top obvious melodies, and I find myself wishing I hadn't bought it. Oh well, perhaps I'll sell it on ebay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Smaug Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Some of you guys need to clean the wax out of your ears! One of my best albums I own. The vocals add to the music. The melodies are done very well. This is a masterpiece no buts ifs about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest p Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 I agree both Entheogenic albums are masterpieces in my opinion, the songwriting is great, relaxing and interesting at the same time. Not many like this out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike D Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Yes I'd say Shulman is on par with the studio tricks used by Shpongle, and he takes it one step beyond with perfect prodcution and quality, Shulman is for sure the future of psy chill and to have a new album would much be very amazing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ciotera Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 I am curious WHAT DO PEOPLE MEAN when they say IT'S A SHPONGLE RIP-OFF? Don't you realize it's impossible to rip off Shpongle? And if anyone is successful at "ripping off" Shpongle, then more power to them! Next time you want to use the supposedly derogatory label "shpongle-like", ask yourself a question, "can I create something shpongle-like?"... coz you might be unintentionally giving someone a compliment when what you wanted was to insult them.. for those out there who are having a difficulty seeing the difference between shpongle and entheogenic, i suggest you listen to both under acid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike D Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 I don't need to be a drug taker to understand music! That is the most fucking stupid statement I"ve heard in a long time "D-uh take acid to understand music" it says they take a lot of their musical ideals from shpongle on the fucking cd cover you knob! I suggest you stop the fucking acid and learn somthing about music! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ciotera Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 Mike D, To each his own.. watch your language, though.. i may be saying blatantly wrong things (in your not-so-humble opinion), but at least i'm saying them in a respectful way.. it's your choice whether to enhance your understanding of music with psychedelics or not. It has worked for me, and I don't see anything wrong with giving such advice. And I don't see anything wrong with your advice either, except for the insulting form in which you chose to express it. My suggestion for you is to learn to read carefully and control your temper. Do not be quick to judge a person from a couple of sentences which do not sit well with your own viewpoint. Do not look for an opportunity to pick a fight because you are utterly convinced of your righteousness. That's immature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Daniel Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 I don't hear anything wrong with that album. They pull off chill out very nicely. It smooth, subtle, gentle, and relaxing. While nothing mind blowing, it's beautiful in it's own right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike D Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 Ok yeah was a bit abusive and quick to jump to conclusins, sorry Bad habit came back for a second I guess each to his own and if you find htis works good on you I guess if you wanna try it a new way gof or it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Towelie Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 i bet even david hasselhof sounds amazing if you take enough acid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 I am happy for you Towelie, after saying that you don't like SYnsun and Infected, and you lastly admitted that you don't like anything. We finally know what you do like- David Hasselhof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Towelie Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 . . * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1 Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 I agree, with first post. Entheogenic is not suble at ALL =(. Which is kinda dissapointing. I still hear things in Shpongle tracks for the first time. Entheogenic while it's beautiful magical melodies the Bass is indeed undeveloped. If one plugs in a good sub for Shpongle you hear things you've never noticed before. If you take some kind of sensory entheogen, it's like your hearing a brand new album because of all the subltle ingredients Sphongle uses. The atmosphere gets thicker and larger, the better the sound system. Entheogenic while inspired by Shpongle definalty doesn't compare, I'd compare entheogenic with things like Shakatura, or Digital Mystery Tour. And i'd compare Shpongle with OTT ...maybe if anyone... But everyone is a little diffrent. (thank goodness) SHULMAN is really unique in my opinion. There are 2 tracks on their first album with AUM chants. I think thats cool. =) My favorite track though from Shpongle has to be the new one released on "X-Mode" comp: Shpongle: Liquid Crystal Vision. I just like what they have to say. And I admire them for saying it. I can hardly hear that track without intense emotion manifesting itself. =-) WHEW... what a fukin trippy universe we have. =)))) p&L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Towelie Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 Theres a new shpongle track !""1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! where !! what !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Towelie Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 its not a new shpongle track !!! its "new way to say hooray" taken from LCV .. thats fucking cheap trick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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