radi6404 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 So in Goa Trance we have pure Goa tradcks, stuff like Electric Universe - Stardiver, than we have uplifting Goa tracks like most of Astral Projection stuff, Dancing Galaxy album for example and more and many more emotional states of goa tracks. And we have the melanchonic tracks from which the most fammous one probably is Power source Granada. this track is so special, I have not heart anything that moving and melanchonic like that track. The track is so moving and driving as if you have ad a whine and listen to it after, but altough it is melanchonic it is positive somehow. the track could be described like very dark clouds with snow falling and the sun shining at the other edge of the sky, lots of humans outside moving and somehow you feel happy and sad at the same time, It is very colorful in it's atmosphere and as if you look back at the years of your life but still not too negative, are there any similar tracks to that masterpeace of which you know? What do you think about that track. There are impressive goa tracks for each mood but this Goa track is just special and would not fit on a compilation consisting of Astral Projection and mfg or indoor tracks at all. It is way too driving and deep as to fit in such a compilation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest D N H Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI7DBbm-IFA - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neurogen Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 what makes Granada melancholic in any way? I think its fairly uplifting and energetic. Melancholic for me is for example, BPC - Crystal, Human Blue - Protonica or Muses Rapt - Spiritual Healing. Just to name 3 of the top of my head. But I forget that you make the definitions and you are always correct. I assume you do mean Melancholic when you say Melanchonic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radi6404 Posted October 13, 2012 Author Share Posted October 13, 2012 No, when I say melanchonic I mean melanchonic and your taste is in fact very weird, to me at least. I find Muses rupt - spritual healing emotional and happy, it gives me positive feelings, not negative, melanchonic is a feeling that is more in the direction of negative and sad, which is what Granada is like. Granada is indeet very energetic, but it is also melanchonic, when you lsiten to it, it gives you cold feelings and makes you a bit sad. Human blue - protonica for exampl is another track that sounds happy to me, it is a bit like angelic particles and it is rather happy and light, it is not very melanchonic for me aktually. I guess you find Indoor - vertigo melanchonic aswell. I do not find Indoor - vertigo melanchonic for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest D N H Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 melanchonic Word not found in the Dictionary and Encyclopedia. Did you mean: melancholic The truth radi is that there is no such a word in the vocabulary of english. You mean melancholic, that's what i got too. Now, for me Granada is both a melancholic and energetic track, a heroic combination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radi6404 Posted October 13, 2012 Author Share Posted October 13, 2012 Ecaxtly, I mean melanchoic, in german it is called melanhonisch, that is why I thought it is melanconic. you are very right about that, Granada is a very energetic but also very melanchoic track, it is a great combination indeet. but the Blue Planet corp track is not a melanchoic track for me, at least it is not such a strong track as Granada and the melanchony is far less. I guess when I aks for melanchoic Oforia will be suggested, but Oforia is very melanchoic and dark, some tracks are very good, however even Oforia does not match the drive of Power source - Granada, it is a very energetic track and that is what I really love about it. however Oforia - soil is a very melanchoic track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwang Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Ecaxtly, I mean melachoic [...] melanonic [...] melanchoic [...] melanchony [...] melanchoic Keep trying, you'll get there eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radi6404 Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 Fucking keyboard, it is 7 years old, seems some keys are not responding on little pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JISNEGRO Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Sorry for being offtopic and I hope no one gets offended, but I have to post this :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radi6404 Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 you can post whatever jokes you want, but my keyboard is very old and I type blind without looking at the keyboard, if I would be looking at it, many keys are not visible anymore anyway, but ofcourse I know where they are. But the keyboard is probably not responding as it should to gentle pressure. so when I type one word wrong it is no reason to have a laugh about me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuser Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 How can you not find Spiritual healing melancholic and say that Granada IS melancholic ? Anyway, the melancholic track for me is Blue planet corporation - Cyclothymic. There is also California sunshine - Jajo, just to name one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest D N H Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Most times music cause us feelings, sometimes though we connect music with emotional states and situations we're getting through. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRIg1A0xHng http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pIU1pUMZhA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radi6404 Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 Two tracks that have not a lot to dowith each other. Hypersphere by Transwave for example is indeet a bit melancholic, that is true. However Z Plane Sunrise is not a melanchonic track in my opnion. There was an Etnica track that was very emotional and sad, but I don't remember it's name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest neurogen Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 No, when I say melanchonic I mean melanchonicOK thats not a word. At all. No Radi YOU are the one with the wierd taste. Spiritual Healing is very very melancholic and sad. He wrote it to cure his cancer or help him get through it, or whatever it was. Very emotional. Also - melancholic is NOT negative. At all. Its sad and emotional, but NOT negative. California Sunshine - Jajo is also a good example. Then you bring up stuff like Indoor and Oforia. Wtf. Those are not melancholic at all. How can you even say that? No - in my book youre the one with wierd taste, not me. But lets agree to disagree. The Etnica track you cant remember, is it Trip Tonite? Thats kinda melancholic i guess. Not really though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radi6404 Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 I think not only do some members here have difficulty in tastes, but they also have big difficulty in understanding what I am saying at all. I said Indoor is very happy and asked if you think Indoor is melanchoic, since it is not. Indoor is the happiest Goa stuff you can get, some tracks at least, that is clear. But Oforia, if you think that is happy and not sad and melanchoic, than you have some issues. oforia - Soil for example is a very sad and melanchoic track, would I ask teachers and psychologysts, they would absolutely agree with me that Oforia - soul or timelessness are very sad tracks. About indoor, ofcourse it is not melachoic, but I said you probably think it is because you also said spritual Healings is melanchoic.for me spritual Healings is not melanchoic, sorry. Do you understand German, because I think you have big difficulties understanding what I am saying at all, otherwise you would not say I have said Indoor is melanchoic. Aktually I think soil is not the right name of that track. And you probably think doof - Let's turn on is also a very happy track, while it is a bit melanchoic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormion Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Blue Planet Corporation-Midian is very melancholic. Just like California Sunshine-Coming Home (both tracks share the same melody for some strange reason). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neurogen Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 I think not only do some members here have difficulty in tastes, but they also have big difficulty in understanding what I am saying at all. I said Indoor is very happy and asked if you think Indoor is melanchoic, since it is not. Indoor is the happiest Goa stuff you can get, some tracks at least, that is clear. But Oforia, if you think that is happy and not sad and melanchoic, than you have some issues. oforia - Soil for example is a very sad and melanchoic track, would I ask teachers and psychologysts, they would absolutely agree with me that Oforia - soul or timelessness are very sad tracks. About indoor, ofcourse it is not melachoic, but I said you probably think it is because you also said spritual Healings is melanchoic.for me spritual Healings is not melanchoic, sorry. Do you understand German, because I think you have big difficulties understanding what I am saying at all, otherwise you would not say I have said Indoor is melanchoic. Aktually I think soil is not the right name of that track. And you probably think doof - Let's turn on is also a very happy track, while it is a bit melanchoic. You think Oforia is melancholic? You sir, are crazy. And no, I dont think Indoor is melancholic. And WHY do you keep comparing Spiritual Healing to Indoor?! Indoor is boooring generic Isreaeli stuff. Why do you even mention him? Doof is indeed happy and energetic. But if you think Timelessness by Oforia is in any way melancholic you need to study that word. Afterall, you thought it was Melanchonic so.. You better study it to see if you even mean what the rest of us mean. Why do you ask if I speak German? No, I do not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neurogen Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Blue Planet Corporation-Midian is very melancholic. Just like California Sunshine-Coming Home (both tracks share the same melody for some strange reason). Yes. Two very good examples. I think Radi instead of saying everyone else is wrong - need to studiy himself. HE is the one who is wrong, not the rest of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radi6404 Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 Neurogen, you are very ignorant and think what you sa is right. with melanchoic I mean sad and thoughtful, if you think Oforia - Timelessness is not sad, I am sorry. When you have been told music lessons at your school didn#t they even teach you which scales are sad and which are not? Oforia does not have to use such scales neccessarily, but I am sure in school they have told you about symphonies played in durr and in moll. My theacher explained to me that the moll scale is the one sounding more serious, thoughtful and darker than the durr scale, so if you think goa trance tracks that are closer to moll are happy, you have serious issues and also other people posting here. Do you see spritual healings being close to moll in the use of notes, can you hear that? I can hear the use of only happy notes and scales on spritual healing, so how can it be melanchoic? also the Blue planet corp and Etnica stuff, most of the tracks posted are not moll or with a sad scale, the Oforia tracks for example are. ranswave - Hypersphere for example is a melanchoic track, the notes aren't as happy as on spiritual healings and it sounds very thoughtful "nachdenklich" translated. So your definition of what is melanchoic and what is happy and energetic is not the real definition, not the definition teachers teach you at school, surely not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radi6404 Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 Yes. Two very good examples. I think Radi instead of saying everyone else is wrong - need to studiy himself. HE is the one who is wrong, not the rest of the world. Because even if it has not been a lot, I have been told music at school and I have been told what is dark and sad and what is happy, I have been told that for example Symphonies played at moll are sad, the teacher played examples and said, this is mroe sad and serious sounding than the other stuff. And then some people here post Spritual healing that does not match sad or serious in any musical definition and say that track is melanchoic. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqdOYjwqz8s this was the Etnica track that has lots of emotion and is a bit sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwang Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 you can post whatever jokes you want, but my keyboard is very old and I type blind without looking at the keyboard, if I would be looking at it, many keys are not visible anymore anyway You're not supposed to look at the keyboard, you're supposed to look at the screen. That way you can see when you make typos. I am sure in school they have told you about symphonies played in durr and in moll. The English terms are 'major' and 'minor'. (Also I'm pretty sure the German word is 'dur', not 'durr'. 'Durr' is the sound I hear in my head when I read your posts.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radi6404 Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 You know what I mean, let's here what Neurogen has to say about it, especially about how tracks can be sad and melanchoic, altough they only use happy scales even without black keys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormion Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 For me there are two kind of melancholic tracks. The pure meloncholic ones like Midian, Coming Home, Pathfinder like Paradox posted, Rain, Axis V.99 and the nostalgic ones. The nostalgic don't make me really sad, more put a bittersweet smile on my face. Hard to explain it. Some examples of nostalgic tracks are Oforia-Voice Of Delusion & The Morning Song, California Sunshine-The Deeper The Bluer, Doof-Sunshrine, Tandu-Rodeo etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radi6404 Posted October 14, 2012 Author Share Posted October 14, 2012 Astral Projection - Axis V.99 is definately a melanchoic song, however not too sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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