Anoebis Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 20 hours ago, Celaripo said: he is not so not sure whats your point That for some reason people accept it much more when an artist bullshits, then when other people do... Thats all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Eye Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 I already requested and got a partial refund when he decided to cancel the T-shirt. Let's see if the album ever arrives. And if the promised remix album and whatever else he had in the bundle never arrive, it's time for another refund. Not exactly having high hopes for any of those anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KER Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 høh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Eye Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Psynina? XD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celaripo Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 10 hours ago, Anoebis said: That for some reason people accept it much more when an artist bullshits, then when other people do... Thats all. politicians are paid with our taxes so of course they owe us something back elysium said many times he refunds the money to any donator who wants the money back - its not like you paid for anything he did not deliver or if you did you can get it back - as pauleye said above so yes silly comparison and mars using an automatic reminder every 6 months to bump the topic is pretty pathetic just my 2 cents - and im sure the album will come out eventually anyway but if he does not its not the end of the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoebis Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 41 minutes ago, Celaripo said: elysium said many times he refunds the money to any donator who wants the money back - its not like you paid for anything he did not deliver or if you did you can get it back - as pauleye said above so yes silly comparison and mars using an automatic reminder every 6 months to bump the topic is pretty pathetic just my 2 cents - and im sure the album will come out eventually anyway but if he does not its not the end of the world If it was only the cd, you are 100% right. The reason why Mars brings this up every six months is because at least 3 (!!) people we know, are still waiting on a refund of 500€ for not showing up on events. Its like a "reminder" for other organisers. Scroll back somewhere here for the full story I love his music, but he should be serious about people's money, and not doing so is seriously damaging our scene. I think, in todays world, too much unserious behaviour is somehow accepted, and thats sad. We shouls stand up against stuff like this! (cfr so many festivals). In the end, being honest and fair should be "normal", and stealing should be condemned. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celaripo Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 On 4/28/2019 at 9:46 AM, Anoebis said: If it was only the cd, you are 100% right. The reason why Mars brings this up every six months is because at least 3 (!!) people we know, are still waiting on a refund of 500€ for not showing up on events. Its like a "reminder" for other organisers. Scroll back somewhere here for the full story I love his music, but he should be serious about people's money, and not doing so is seriously damaging our scene. I think, in todays world, too much unserious behaviour is somehow accepted, and thats sad. We shouls stand up against stuff like this! (cfr so many festivals). In the end, being honest and fair should be "normal", and stealing should be condemned. fair enough then was not aware of these other stories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogzBinny Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Update https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/elysium-cd-album-fund?fbclid=IwAR13q7Yf4JgtCpcjJwHKMsPIOopnubhn0SFbW6AwNoxTYrNDeWSKTEnDabs#/updates/21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technosomy Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 on the surface he answers some questions but like stated above, if he wants people to take this seriously, he needs to give back the money he owes for his no shows. otherwise i will never support this person ever, i already threw all his albums away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psytones Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Should have made the album Then asked for backers. 2013 is s long time since. 1 500 dollah is mucho money, honey. .. Makes me wonder, should we.. Will ppl back it? (The 3 cds are done, just not printed). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanosp81 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 7 hours ago, technosomy said: i already threw all his albums away That's a bit silly, isn't? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technosomy Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 On 5/16/2019 at 7:12 PM, thanosp81 said: That's a bit silly, isn't? didn't actually bin them, gave them away, but i can't support people who rip others off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mars Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 And here we go again... https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/digitalreprints/elysium-liveand-beyond?ref=project_lin We can follow the heist from here now: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mars Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 And here we go again... https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/digitalreprints/elysium-liveand-beyond?ref=project_lin We can follow the heist from here now: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U.F.Orb Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 ROFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanosp81 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 21 hours ago, mars said: And here we go again... https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/digitalreprints/elysium-liveand-beyond?ref=project_lin We can follow the heist from here now: I will politely ask you to remove this as I take personal offence from this post. This Kickstarter is run by me, not Kristian. I have been supporting the Psy Trance scene with my wallet for 25 years now, longer than a lot of people here. Starting with no experience and running the projects alone, I have successfully completed 7 Kickstarter projects, something that I still consider magical. All the projects are with artists that a lot of record labels would be drooling over having them in their roster. As in every project run before Elysium, I secure all the audio files before starting the campaign. I don't want to end up with thousand of pounds in my pocket and no music to release. And so is the case here as you can see on my Bandcamp page. This project is run by me and only me and there is nothing that can go wrong. If Kristian failed to deliver to his fundraiser is irrelevant. My point here is not to defend Kristian (and I haven't since I have no personal knowledge about the issues and as a way of life I do not jump to conclusions). I just want to stress that this project will be fulfilled and I will be the Santa Clauss bearing gifts for the people who decide to get in my list 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visine Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Project update: "Hi all :) I have decided to shut down this project and I will start refunding your money. I have already refunded 15 of you and the rest of you will recieve your money over the next month. If you have changed paypal email please contact me on: elysiumworld@gmail.com with your full name, email and how much you paid. I am sorry this release never happend but you can not force things and life and I since I still lack inspirtation to fulfill the music I think it's time to stop this project. If I finish the music I will relese it digital on Bandcamp. I want to tell you all how appreciate I am for your support and that you all rock! Kristian" https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/elysium-cd-album-fund?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=bck-08182019update&utm_term=#/updates/all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technosomy Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 has anyone here on psynews been on the magic 15 list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsotsi Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 6 hours ago, visine said: Project update: "Hi all I have decided to shut down this project and I will start refunding your money. I have already refunded 15 of you and the rest of you will recieve your money over the next month. If you have changed paypal email please contact me on: elysiumworld@gmail.com with your full name, email and how much you paid. I am sorry this release never happend but you can not force things and life and I since I still lack inspirtation to fulfill the music I think it's time to stop this project. If I finish the music I will relese it digital on Bandcamp. I want to tell you all how appreciate I am for your support and that you all rock! Kristian" https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/elysium-cd-album-fund?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=bck-08182019update&utm_term=#/updates/all What's up with this? Does it have anything to do with Thanos? Hopefully not as I originally came here to say that I trust Thanos and don't think he plans to fuck any one on this campaign. I thought the pledge was going to be £300 but after looking properly I realise it much more affordable. I will be backing before the end of the campaign. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanosp81 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Tsotsi said: What's up with this? Does it have anything to do with Thanos? Hopefully not as I originally came here to say that I trust Thanos and don't think he plans to fuck any one on this campaign. I thought the pledge was going to be £300 but after looking properly I realise it much more affordable. I will be backing before the end of the campaign. Nope, nothing to do with me. It is Kristian's personal choice. The campaign I run is my responsibility and mine alone. The £300 on Bandcamp is the only way to make a release unavailable digitally unfortunately. I understand that confuses a lot of people but I do not see any other way to sell only merch WITH digital files. Except if I made it private but then I would have a very blank page on Bandcamp, lol. All pledges are appreciated, so close to the target now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grayling Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 The six year drama comes to a close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technosomy Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 not if he keeps commiting to playing festivals and not turning up, hopefully promoters have learned their lesson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draeke Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 I just want to inform that I have been refunded on my pledge of the campaign and that even if I am sad the album was never finished, Kristian made things right. We hope he may finish the album sometimes and put it on bandcamp maybe, that would be great and also he won't have the pressure to finish it because of the campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drosophila Posted October 6, 2019 Author Share Posted October 6, 2019 On 10/3/2019 at 1:04 AM, draeke said: I just want to inform that I have been refunded on my pledge of the campaign and that even if I am sad the album was never finished, Kristian made things right. We hope he may finish the album sometimes and put it on bandcamp maybe, that would be great and also he won't have the pressure to finish it because of the campaign. Same here, got it last week. Also still hoping to see the album become a reality one day... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neptun Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 On 10/6/2019 at 12:38 PM, Drosophila said: Same here, got it last week. Also still hoping to see the album become a reality one day... .... still waiting for the refund of USD 50/EUR 40 as i wrote already several mails to Kristian .... i don't know why some got refunded and some not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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