JISNEGRO Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Personally I use windows 7 because it is easy to use and is the platform I use at work. Furthermore this machine is the home computer which I share with my nephew and sister, and I doubt they know how to use anything else. But recently I decided to try Linux and installed Mint 15 for my personal use. I love how fast the machine feels running linux, though I had a pretty hard time configuring the hardware. I decided to use Linux because I do not want to entirely devote myself to Windows, as a programmer I want a more flexible platform to experiment and learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnb820 Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Arch Linux here. I have been using Linux since about 2005 when I first tried Ubuntu and haven't touched Windows since. I guess I use Linux because it's simply a superior OS even though it can be troublesome to set up properly. It's all a learning experience which I find infinitely rewarding. I studied computer science in college and it's by far easier to program and develop on. By the way there is a great studio application available called LMMS which I use to make stuff with in case some were wondering whether something like it existed or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwang Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Personally I use windows 7 Ditto But recently I decided to try Linux and installed Mint 15 for my personal use. Ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acid-brain Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 On 6/23/2013 at 11:22 PM, johnb820 said: Arch Linux here. I have been using Linux since about 2005 when I first tried Ubuntu and haven't touched Windows since. I guess I use Linux because it's simply a superior OS even though it can be troublesome to set up properly. It's all a learning experience which I find infinitely rewarding. I studied computer science in college and it's by far easier to program and develop on. By the way there is a great studio application available called LMMS which I use to make stuff with in case some were wondering whether something like it existed or not. It's nice to hear that people are trying Linux. I used to use Arch too but I had too many problems setting up various hardware, and let'sbe honest, LMMS isn't anything like other DAWS. The LB302 preset is nice though. So I'm unfortunately staying with Windows, it's the only way to get my favourite software like Ableton, outside buying a mac, which I can't afford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatKidWitAJetPak Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I started building PCs when I was 12, yes I am that nerdy, and I also started Mac around that time. I had a lot of software for Mac at the time, such as Flash 8 by Macromedia, and began working on finding the right ways to express things. I began making music and have been hooked on the OS X ever since. I have had the same computer for 6 years, and just bought a 15'' Retina for production and design. It works really well, and I love being able to have up to 20 desktops open at the same time. Toonnnsss of room to do stuff in! No viruses, intuitive interface, and really innovative in my opinion. OS X has some of the most beautiful software I have ever used and I will definitely be upgrading to OS X Mavericks in the Fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veracohr Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Mac OS 10.6.8, because I've had no reason to update to a newer version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radi6404 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I am using Windows 7, good and relatively stable OS, altough very valnurable for virus and malware. Personally I use windows 7 because it is easy to use and is the platform I use at work. Furthermore this machine is the home computer which I share with my nephew and sister, and I doubt they know how to use anything else. But recently I decided to try Linux and installed Mint 15 for my personal use. I love how fast the machine feels running linux, though I had a pretty hard time configuring the hardware. I decided to use Linux because I do not want to entirely devote myself to Windows, as a programmer I want a more flexible platform to experiment and learn. How is Ubuntu? Is it easy to install applications now or does it still requrie that you ahve to type stuff in the commant prompt, that was the reason that always hindered me using Linux more, since I am curious about Linux, I like the design and performance. But if you think about it, unless youare a computer expert Windows is better in any way, better hardware support, better applications, easy to install software, all thsoe things are worse with linux. I am not a computer specialist that I can write software so for me I guess Linux would be the wrong OS. I would be glad if you tell me something about it, for example if they finally invented an easier way for installing programs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnb820 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Installing any basic linux distro, including Ubuntu, is extremely easy. Installing new software is a click away from the expansive repositories already set up. Getting your software to work the way you want it to is still a difficult challenge. Likewise there may be hardware that Linux does not automatically have a solution for. It's quite possible some piece of hardware simply won't work. Going beyond the basics of the OS almost always results in learning some commands which if you have the patience for can be fun and rewarding but also very frustrating. If you don't want to do much fancy stuff on your computer, Linux is far and away the safest, most secure, and stable OS out there. No viruses, no malware, no lockups, relatively fast, easy to use. All of your basic computer needs are generally met with zero learning curve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procyon Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 My BF is a graphic designer so we bought an iMac some years ago, because it was his dream to have one. At that point we were Windows users. After the iMac experience, we switched to Apple devices. We use it because we share two agendas thru iCloud, one for our lounge, another personal, using two iPhones and two MacBooks. I can't even imagine myself using another OS. We are using Mountain Lion, which runs smoothly, never had a problem. with our computers or devices. The main reason we keep using OSX is that it's stable. One example: when a group of people makes a big reservation, I put it in iCal and this data is immediately synched thru iCloud, my BF gets this info wherever he is, then makes a list of things we need to buy: wines, kitchen ware, etc... We couldn't do that using a system that is not solid or reliable enough. In short, OSX and iOS are essential for our business. I see our iDevices as partners in our success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwang Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 How is Ubuntu? Is it easy to install applications now or does it still requrie that you ahve to type stuff in the commant prompt, that was the reason that always hindered me using Linux more You keep mentioning being good with computers as one of your strengths when you're looking for jobs. Don't you think this would ring more true if you were willing to learn how to use a command prompt? Anyway, I recently installed Linux Mint and can recommend it for Unix noobs - it was mostly very easy to install and get things working. However, I did have to ask my flatmate a couple of questions. If you want to try Linux (and it probably won't do your employment prospects any harm if you do) then Mint is the way to go, but make sure you have either a friend who knows his stuff or another computer with access to the support forum at the ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padmapani Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Mac OS 10.6.8, because I've had no reason to update to a newer version. 10.8.3 here, because my old laptop died and the new one can't run snow leopard. stick to it while you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procyon Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 10.8.3 here, because my old laptop died and the new one can't run snow leopard. stick to it while you can. Why? I have Mountain Lion running in on MB and Snow Leopard in another. The Lion beats the Leopard in every aspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmiwinks Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 ha, it depends on the device I'm running... Windows Vista on my laptop, Windows 7 on my desktop, iOS 6.1 on my iPad and Blackberry os7 on my Blackberry I've tried going down the Linux road but found it created more frustration than anything else (same for Android for that matter). So yeah, I'm probably part of that vast majority of people who prefer to sacrifice processing speed to ease of use... And I have this crazy idea that gaining a few tenths of a second in processing time using Linux is more than overshadowed by the WEEKS it takes to learn to tweak your system and finding the proper drivers for your hardware... PS I always find it funny when Linux freaks eventually admit that they also have Windows running on their computer so that they can be able to use one or other software that's unavailable on Linux... like what's the freakin point of using a different os if you're gonna just check your mails, listen to MP3s and surf the web Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acid-brain Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Linux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radi6404 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I don't see how an OS is easy to use when it requires you to know commands for the command prompt in order to install applications, that is rediculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technosomy Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 holy shit, people still use microsoft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Eye Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Windows 7 Ultimate x64 on my desktop, just because I happen to be used to Windows, and I still want to play games (try doing that on Linux). Also, no Linux versions of the audio and DJing software I use. Windows XP SP3 on my DJing laptop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwang Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 holy shit, people still use microsoft? Windows 7 is actually very good. (Windows 8, on the other hand, is appalling.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwang Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I don't see how an OS is easy to use when it requires you to know commands for the command prompt in order to install applications, that is rediculous. Linux does not require you to use the command prompt to install applications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwang Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 And I have this crazy idea that gaining a few tenths of a second in processing time using Linux is more than overshadowed by the WEEKS it takes to learn to tweak your system and finding the proper drivers for your hardware... My Python programs run about 50% faster in Linux. That's considerably more than a few tenths of a second in processing time (and it didn't take weeks for me to find the proper drivers, it was trivial, but I don't doubt that varies from system to system). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmiwinks Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, but I don't see why you need to BUY Windows at all if you're just going to do this. If you just surf the web and check emails, then an easy-to-use installation of Linux will be faster and free. People complain about hardware problems and command prompts - realistically, Ubuntu these days is easier to use than Windows. You're only going to run into problems if you try messing around with the more esoteric distributions, and myself and many others love doing this from a hobbyist's point of view. There are a number of reasons that for a geek, Linux is absolutely wonderful to use, even if you find yourself reaching for Windows sometimes when particular software is required. well for starters, about 90% computers sold are FACTORY EQUIPPED with Windows, so it's not like you had to go to the store and buy an installation disc Ubuntu "easier to use than Windows" hehe that always gets me laughing, expecially since Linux evangelists have been claiming that for YEARS already, and most Windows users give it a try and then go back to windows once they realize it's just a big fat LIE!! Really now, if Ubuntu really was that easy to intall and use, do you really think it wouldn't have gained more popularity outside of the closed world of computer geeks in all these years? Not to mention that these days more and more of those computer anti-windows geeks prefer Mac OS... hmm I wonder why?Anyway, I don't want to come off as some Windows lobbyist or something, if people like Linux good for them but, I'm just sharing my personal experience with Linux. I mean, I really would have loved to replace Windows but I've realized (after WEEKS of fiddling through linux forum, talking to ass*oles who consider themselves better than everyone else just because they know how to type a few command lines) that I simply couldn't replace Windows 100% with Linux, in the best case scenario I'd have to have a dual boot system and ended up considering it simply wasn't covenient to have to cycle through 2 different systems according to whether I just wanted to surf the web or actually use a more "serious" program'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acid-brain Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 well for starters, about 90% computers sold are FACTORY EQUIPPED with Windows, so it's not like you had to go to the store and buy an installation disc Ubuntu "easier to use than Windows" hehe that always gets me laughing, expecially since Linux evangelists have been claiming that for YEARS already, and most Windows users give it a try and then go back to windows once they realize it's just a big fat LIE!! Really now, if Ubuntu really was that easy to intall and use, do you really think it wouldn't have gained more popularity outside of the closed world of computer geeks in all these years? Not to mention that these days more and more of those computer anti-windows geeks prefer Mac OS... hmm I wonder why?Anyway, I don't want to come off as some Windows lobbyist or something, if people like Linux good for them but, I'm just sharing my personal experience with Linux. I mean, I really would have loved to replace Windows but I've realized (after WEEKS of fiddling through linux forum, talking to ass*oles who consider themselves better than everyone else just because they know how to type a few command lines) that I simply couldn't replace Windows 100% with Linux, in the best case scenario I'd have to have a dual boot system and ended up considering it simply wasn't covenient to have to cycle through 2 different systems according to whether I just wanted to surf the web or actually use a more "serious" program'... The factory equipped thing is unfortunate - I always buy my computers without OS and save $. My friend bought a laptop equipped with Vista that wasn't even fast enough to run Vista - so she asked me for help, and I suggested Linux. She's had Ubuntu installed happily and NEVER had to touch the command line or fix anything. I'd like to add that she's computer illiterate. No update problems, computer restarts or viruses like Windows and absolutely free. The popularity argument is fallacious. Zirrex - Lost In Time is a fantastic goa album and yet even a lot of the goa heads don't know it as you can see from the forums. Does that mean it's not excellent or user-friendly? No, it's more to do with marketing and hype, which Windows and Mac spend $1000000s on and Linux has almost none of. In fact, you might say it's amazing that Linux has at least 3% of the market share in computers WITHOUT marketing, and most of the market in phones with Android (although people don't mostly know it's Linux) It sounds like you are one of the unlucky few who couldn't get their hardware working with Linux... I've never had a problem with any of my computers and neither has my friend. I've also found the forums to be friendly and welcoming, with experts giving up their spare time to help complete newbies with problems. But it's your experience, and mine is different, so I guess they cancel each other out...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radi6404 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 An OS that requires command prompts for installing is not an easy to use OS for sure. And you need it to install apps except you use the linux database with a few apps, so what should I say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acid-brain Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 An OS that requires command prompts for installing is not an easy to use OS for sure. And you need it to install apps except you use the linux database with a few apps, so what should I say? An OS that requires you to update every single one of your applications individually is not an easy to use OS for sure... *cough* Windows An OS that requires you to find an application installer on the internet, download the exe, check that its a reputable site and file, then find and run the installer, and click through every stage, is not an easy to use OS for sure... Windows In Arch Linux, one of the most difficult Linux variants, all you have to do to install say, Audacity, is open up a command prompt (link on your desktop) and type "pacman -S audacity" ... then Audacity will LITERALLY install in seconds. 10x faster than Windows. To update EVERY application, all you have to do is type "pacman -U" There are good guides that explain every stage, you could be a donkey and still do fine because you're only following instructions, on a machine that runs much smoother and efficiently than Windows does. BUT you don't even have to use the command prompt, as people have repeatedly pointed out to you. Ubuntu created a software center, which Mac I think are trying to copy (but I don't know much about Macs, and would never use one unless I was a professional video editor or touring musician) If you'd used Linux your whole life, then you'd think that Windows was difficult, slow and counterintuitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imba Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I prefer XP but have Win 7 on both, desktop and laptop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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