Goa Travellers Posted July 4, 2013 Posted July 4, 2013 Namaste!! I was wondering...Do trancers use analog sequencers such as the MAQ16/3, the Dark Times or the MAM SQ16 to actually produce music, not just tinkering? This gear sure looks good, but it looks extremely limited compared to a soft sequencer such as Cubase, at least for our musical genre with so many tracks per tune, sounds, instruments and SFX. Please share your opinion Boom! Quote
DJEuforiske Posted July 4, 2013 Posted July 4, 2013 There is still people who still use all hardware, but its much more time and money consuming than just having a all soft synth and sequencer setup which can be free Quote
Goa Travellers Posted July 4, 2013 Author Posted July 4, 2013 I guess people use these sequencers just to create melodies, to play around, to tinkle, but not to make tunes. Quote
DJEuforiske Posted July 4, 2013 Posted July 4, 2013 If you go to gearslutz or muffwiggler forums you'll find guys there Quote
needle ninja Posted July 5, 2013 Posted July 5, 2013 I knew one guy who had the complete Doepfer system and he made songs for a band. Quote
Goa Travellers Posted July 5, 2013 Author Posted July 5, 2013 Hum, but did they make full-fledged psychedelic trance tunes or just some sort of mnimal techno music? Quote
needle ninja Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Is that the only kind of music you think people make? Quote
Goa Travellers Posted July 6, 2013 Author Posted July 6, 2013 I think it's the opposite, i.e. I think psychedelic trance is less likely to be a genre that makes use of an analog sequencer to create a full tune (compared to minimal techno music). Quote
psytimeofmylife Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 a Dark TIme would be great to have. I also considered the Midipal. However, because of the lack of money a knobby midi controller and a vst sequencer will have to do. Before that, I used a selfmade puredata patch and later found out, that it lags on windows Usually when I use such a sequencer, no music is made. It's just so much fun to play with it. Quote
Djuna Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 There are hardly people making goa trance with analog synths, let alone analog sequencers. Quote
Goa Travellers Posted July 11, 2013 Author Posted July 11, 2013 Yeah. Maybe for live performance acts? Anyway, not quite interested Quote
CoLoUr DoTZ Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 Well, if you count the sequencer on the 303 or x0xbox, on any drum machine like the 909 or the more modern machinedrum, or on many synths like the mopho or the roland sh-101, then I would say there are many people who use hardware sequencers. If you are only talking about dedicated sequencers like the doepfers....... well....., not so many. Quote
Goa Travellers Posted July 11, 2013 Author Posted July 11, 2013 The SH-101 sequencer, ok, but not for actual music production, I guess... Quote
CoLoUr DoTZ Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 The SH-101 sequencer, ok, but not for actual music production, I guess... I don't understand what you mean..... Quote
Goa Travellers Posted July 12, 2013 Author Posted July 12, 2013 I mean, the SH-101 sequencer is extremely limited, compared to a full-fledged sequencer such as Cubase... Quote
Veracohr Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Yeah, a sequencer on a single instrument doesn't really count. I don't use the x0xb0x without the sequencer but I don't consider it as using a hardware sequencer to write my music. Quote
Goa Travellers Posted July 12, 2013 Author Posted July 12, 2013 Do you mean you use a DAW and additionally you trigger the hardware sequencer of the synth from the DAW? Quote
CoLoUr DoTZ Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Well, comparing an analog sequencer with a DAW does't make much sense. How many analog sequencers needs someone to get to the sequencing power of a DAW, hundreds? The only hardware sequencers that come to mind are the MMT8, the Cirklon and the Elektron sequencers, and they all are digital, what means, they are a dedicated computer. Analog sequencers are used to produce melodic lines, riffs and rythms. To ensemble a tune it is more practical the used of a DAW, multitrack harddisk recorder or even tape. How could be Psytrance produced with only analog hardware sequencers?? 1 x 909 with it's own sequencer in song mode 2 x 303 with it's own sequencer in song mode 1 x 101 with it's own sequencer 1 x Juno 106 with the arppegiator on 1 x Doepfer analog sequencer triggering a sampler 24 or 32 mixer board + eventide multieffects + more multieffects + more multieffects All in sync and doing the mix on the fly to a Dat tape. Maybe with a couple of punch ins to fix some mixing errors.... Well.... to myself it doesn't make sense nowadays, I rather print the sequences and do the rest in Logic.......... Quote
Goa Travellers Posted July 12, 2013 Author Posted July 12, 2013 I agree with you! But, yeah, as you said, if it's just to have fun at home, for a live experiment, the above configuration is nice. Quote
CoLoUr DoTZ Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 I agree with you! But, yeah, as you said, if it's just to have fun at home, for a live experiment, the above configuration is nice. I'd love to have a 909 and a 101...... also the 303 would be nice ..... very nice!!!! Quote
Goa Travellers Posted July 12, 2013 Author Posted July 12, 2013 As collectors, yes. Nowadays, if it'spurely for music performance, the clones are good enough. I like the following replacements: TR-909 or TR-808 -> Jomox Airbase 99, 9090, TB-303 -> (Many!) TM-3030 (I want one!), Syntecno TeeBee, x0xb0x (Need I present it?) SH-101 -> Dark Energy, Paia Fatman, ok, somehow Quote
CoLoUr DoTZ Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 you would compare the sh-101 with the dark energy?? interesting... with the old or the new dark energy? Quote
Goa Travellers Posted July 12, 2013 Author Posted July 12, 2013 LOL...Yeah, as I mentioned: "somehow" It came to mind when I heard a demonstration of the v.1 of the Dark Energy. I think it could be used as a replacement (or as a companion) Quote
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