radi6404 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 So I´ve been thinking aobut this sbuject extensively the last time, considering also other aspects of reality, for example that reality mgith be different for any person and that we live in our own realities, yet we are able to talk to other people and see them, however reality might be a projection that is different for anyone like a holoprogram, but we still can speak with other people since they are visbile in anyones reality. So I watched many youtube videos, read about out of body experiences and people report, that they see themselfes outside of the body and can describe things, that they cna´t possibly see with their eyes. Even blidn people can see and describe things, altough they can´t see usually. If reality is real, the people on those videos would not be lying and they would undoutably have experienced things, that can´t be explained by any ordinary scientist, who things it is all made up in the brain. It is not possible to see things that aren´t in visible range for the eyes at any time or even go to other places. So if reality is real, we can see that as very supportive evidence of an independant soul, and if it is not, we do know that scientists don´t know the truth either. Because if it is like one old friend of mine suggested, that reality might be controlled for anyone seperately and the things we see be generated from other beings, it would still suggest that there is something reater than observative reality. He explained to me that reality might be generated differently for any person. People can communicate with others, because they appear in other relaities aswell, but still the reality itself may be generated differently for any person. He suggested that we can never see the whole story and that we only see from two eyes. He said that the picture we don´t see, is not even there or generated, only when we turn the head, the projection continues. I don´t know if this absurd sounding theory has any ground, but I can tell a whole lot of stories here, that I can´t grasp myself at all. I think I am able to express myself well enough and can try to tell those stories, I even have pictures to support them, but the question is, do we all lie in one reality or is it different to anyone and aktually a projection. If the thread goes on well, we will probably know more about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trancenonZENsedance Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 a) there is an objective reality there is not a.1) almost all people perceive objective reality accurately enough almost all the time a.2) we all are very far away from objective reality and the reason we appear to be so close to it is, that we all perceive it wrong in a very similar way (we share a common false view of the world) a.3) something between a.1 and a.2 b.1) almost all people happen to construct their subjective reality in a very similar way b.2) only the I exists, all of (outside) reality is only my invention (= solipsism) b.3) other people exist independently of me, but there is hardly any similarity between my subjective reality and theirs. communication fails to show relevant discrepancies between different people's realities for whatever reasons b.1 and b.3 are probably kind of hard to imagine, but for me this doesn't mean they shouldn't be considered possible. Relativity theory and quantum mechanics are also hard to image and quite illogical to the average human mind, already. I don't know how it could be possible for anyone to prove that any one of these possibilties would be true or false. Any ideas, anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwang Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 a) there is an objective reality there is not c) There is an objective fact of the matter as to whether there is an objective reality d) There is no objective fact of the matter as to whether there is an objective reality ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technosomy Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 don't know much about the science of this but don't think we see much in the light spectrum. we communicate with each other because we all vibrate at the same frequency, i guess we just all wave forms as far as quantum physics go, and to quote yoda "illuminous are we..... not this matter" (touch lukes scrawny arm) i just got to figure out now, how to walk through walls! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radi6404 Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 b.3) other people exist independently of me, but there is hardly any similarity between my subjective reality and theirs. communication fails to show relevant discrepancies between different people's realities for whatever reasons I do believe that is the case and I will state in detail now, why that is, I even think everything that one person touches, technical devices fro example, belong to his reality, while other devices don`t. See pictures later. So what I am going to tell about now may sound very dumb or absurd and people may think I am much dumber than they thought before, but it is really what I experience. First of all I have an eye, my left I, that does not see things ina normal way like my right eye. It somehow scans the surface and transfers the light conditions in a room to feelings. I compare it to roentgem since it is not very far way from it. I don`t know how my left I is capable of doing so since when I was to an eye doctor, he did not say that I am capable of such things. Anyway it can feel changes in light and it processes the images like pressure. For example if light is bended from a deice or altered, I feel the force of it, the light is being bended to one point in the room (cameras can visualize what the eye sees, but later more of it). And devices, that can alter the light in a big way are in my experiences computer processors, graphics cardprocessors, graphics card platines and motherboasrds and their components. And here comes the interesting fact, the fact that I never expected would happen. AtAugust of 2012 I bought a Gigabyte X38 PS4 Motherboard. It was an old Motherboard designed for sockel 775, with an core2duo E8400. I started using the motherboard in my room and the motherboard was doing strange things to the light that my left I could feel, but the changes were minor. But then came a time it was 05.01.2013. Then the conditioning of the motherboard changed completely and some small device on it, one of the radiators or one of the chips, started to bend the light and to cut it enormously. The unbelievable happened at this day, the effect of the small motherboard became so strong, that I felt uncomfortable in my room. I decided to get away the motherboard and brought it far away and trhow it in a bin. (if you don´t want to read all of it, go to the pictures and see the visual evidence) Soon after, 2 days to be exat, the effect of that part of the motherboard became so strong, that it could be felt from many kilometers already and could be felt in whole Europe. I can´t explain how this is possible and this suggests, that our reality is not connected to other realities. The light, the sun and lamps did not get dark for example, but you could see on streetlights anywhere in Europe for example, how the light is pulled to the direction of the motherboard, since that part became that strong. I felt uncomfortable since you could see it on monitor screens and feel the effect enormously all the day, sometimes stronger, sometimes weaker. I suspected the motherboard had been taken out by one person at the building, where I throw the motherboard away, so I prepared a hangout at the door and asked, if someone has that motherboard. A few days after, it was 20th of April, the effect faded away and since then I feel almost nothing of the motherboard, but sometimes it returns and it can be show with a camera aswell. It returns for a few minutes in a weak state, then goes away. It seems the owner who has taken it away, eventually got rid of it or it was because of some other actions I took that I wont explain here. After the vent with the motherboard I had several different computerparts, that were as strong to effect the light in big areas of the planet, two cpus, one graphics card. One graphics card AMD 7700 has an effect right now from time to time and I had to get rid of that graphics card. It somehow makes the light stronger and that is annoying. It is not the sky that is getting stronger, but when you look at monitors or at streetlights, you can see the effect. The big question now, that suggests that anyone lives in a different reality, but we can still interact with anyone is, why do I feel effects of those parts for months and can even record them on pictures, but do not feel effects of other computer devices. I don´t want to know how many motherboards like the Gigabyte GA X38 GS4, Core I3 notebook cpu or HD 7770 are out there. There must be many thousands of those and each of those must eventually start doing something on the environment I should be able to feel with my left eye (and catch up with a camera) Thus, there must be many many different computer parts, that can become so strang, that they start entering the light, but I did not feel any of it yet and did not see changes in the atmosphere. There are billions of computers and computerparts out there so the light forces must be changing within seconds, but that isn´t the case. I have come to a point that I asked myself, am I faulty for what is happening or is it a result of good and bad behavior towards others, disappointing parents for example, and a computer part starts going crazy. I have also considered the parts I use, whether they are so different and the combination can make the computer parts become like that. My power supply is XFX core edition 550, my fan is revoltec airguard pro, my harddisc is western digital caviar blue, all the other parts change from time to time, except the thermal paste, arctic cooling silver. But I think others use such parts aswell. So here are the pictures, that proove what I have experienced: That picture shows the best evidence and the one above it. How can the light be bended so a stroke is recorded by the camera in that direction? So look at those pictures, they were recored at the beginning of April 2013 at my home in Germany and they all show the same. The atmosphere being altered by the motherboard. The camera did nto have some failure and neither are those pictures normal. Just look how the light on the streetlights is pulled down and towards the south. Look at the long stroke that goes to the south and slightly down, it is visible on 6 pictures, not one but 6. All recorded in different timeperiods of the day and with different settings. Usually you would expect the camera to take pictures that don´t show a stroke of light in that direction. The lights would appear normal and would not have any tendency to be bended in that direction, but they did because of the motherboard, with was 2 kilometers away in that direction of the home. If anyone wants to suggest that it is because of the camera, look at other dark pictures, you would see a round buuble or balloon lighteffect that is arround the real light, because the camer can´t record it properly. You would under no circumstances see a stroke goin in that direction on 6 pictures. This state was present 50 percent of the time from 5.January 2013 til 20 April 2013. We must observe pictures from other people in europe to see if they show the effect or not. If they show the effect, how are my computer parts different to be causing that, are they unique because I twork with them? Why don`t other parts of the same kind alter the light? If they don`t show the effect, it is stange aswell. Cameras and optical records seem to record the reality of the owners perception, not what is really there. Now I hope noone thinks that the lights light towards that direction, the lights are roun and emit the same light intensity to any direction like lightbumbs. They are not brighter to the side, where the strokes appeared and yet the strokes are there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radi6404 Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 i am wondering, Tatsu was here and did not leave a reply. Why did you not leave a reply, Tatsu? Is my story to absurd for you, do you want to question it, do you want to say I am crazy. It is possible that I am and that the story has other ways of explanation, but the fact is, I know what I have experienced and I know how my camera takes pictures, I know exactly that if the motherboard event would not had happened, the camera would not have recorded the streetlights like that. You can also notice how the light appears on the cars. They do not show the stroke, recorded by the camera, simply because that is only visible to cameras or to certain eyes. Maybe the objects like cars are independant of it, because other people would see them and it would not support the theory mentioned by trancenonZENsedance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abasio Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 There is nothing unusual in those pictures. I'm left wondering if I missed something or if you just lack a basic understanding of how light works, or if I do because those pictures are how I see pretty much every street light or single light source in a darkened place. On the concept of reality: I am an agnostic solipsist, I can only be sure that I exist in some way, everything else, while I believe it exists I cannot be sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radi6404 Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 Ofcourse there is something unusual about the lights, why can´t you see it? I explained it in high detail and yet you simply fail to understand what I mean? Do I have to mark the place that you see why the pictures are unusual? It can however be possible, that in your reality the pictures look different and are normal, but in case we see the same pictures, how do you explain that the light is teared to the right of the picture. How don`t you see the long lines of light, that show to the right? You can´t seriously believe that the camera would record that if everything was normal. Not in 6 pictures. In picture 1 it is very obvious, how do you explain that? If you say that this is normal, you are an reallity addict and have nothing to do with agnostic solipsis. you simply try to find regularities and want to put the pictures in a regularity where there is non. You don´t allow the possibility, because it sounds strange to you, you are an reallity addict. I don´t want to offend you Abasio, but the pictures are very obvious and you question them, that is how a reallity addict idenies anything unusual because he is affraid of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abasio Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I'm sorry radi but all I can see in those photos are lens flares which are a pretty common occurrence when taking photos of bright lights. Did you use a lens hood when you took the pictures? Also how does the fact that I cannot see anything special in your pictures make me not an agnostic solipsit? The two have no connection and I don't see how you matched them unless you failed to understand what I meant by agnostic solipsism. Reality addiction doesn't come in to it Radio, I don't give a shot about reality. I respond to what I perceive, if it's real or not is inconsequential and in your photos I see a lens flare, not light being pulled towards a possessed motherboard. But I think my reality might be very different from your reality radi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radi6404 Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 Asi I explained above, lens flare would show like a round bubble arround the lamp, not show only in one direction. It is absolutely impossible lens flare to show in one specific direction when the lamp is round in 6 pictures. Take photos of stretlights and see if you will get a lensflare effect, that shows in one direction only, a long line towards the right. Lensflare in such circumstances would be round. Now look at this picture. See how long the line is to the right and that the light has no line to the round. If you think such a long, thin line to the right is lens flare, that you must be blind. Lens flare is always centric, except there is a movement, than it goes in the direction of the movement. But since there is no movement at all, as you can see on the sharp roof, the lens flare theory is absolutely falling apart. If you seriously think that lens flare on such a sharp picture without blurr at all would have such an effect, you would not believe even the best evidence for paranormal discoveries. Look how thin the line is, look what direction it is, look that it absolutely shows to the right. I will take a photo of streetlights later so you can see that this is not lens flare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radi6404 Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 Here a comparison of pictures I took just about now: No lensflare at all on those pictures. I took some others when it was darker and they have lensflare aktually, but absolutely centric and not in one direction. It looks much different and is not a narrow, long line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abasio Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 This might be a little too mainstream but here is the result of a google image search for lens flare as you can see there is a lot of different types of lens flare, many similar to the ones in your pictures. After my last post I have walked from the station to my house, passing numerous street lights and car lights etc. Whenever I squint at them they look just like your pictures, except with my eyes they are mostly vertical. As I said before and what seems to be the topic of this thread from the opening salvo is that people view reality differently. Weren't you expecting people to perceive these photos differently than you? The whole idea of this thread seems be that there can be no empirical evidence because everyone's reality is shaped around how he perceives it. You see something in these pictures that I do not, I am not denying that there is something, only stating that I don't see it and attempting to support my view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abasio Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Here a comparison of pictures I took just about now: No lensflare at all on those pictures. I took some others when it was darker and they have lensflare aktually, but absolutely centric and not in one direction. It looks much different and is not a narrow, long line. To be fair radi you are much further away from the lights in the last photos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radi6404 Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 But you see it now because of my comparison. In a few days I will have the opportunity to take pictures of the same lights with the bended light and you will see evidence that they wont have the same lines. you also see on the later pictures, that the lensflare is not preset on the pictures I took now. How do you explain that? To be fair radi you are much further away from the lights in the last photos If the motherboard was altering the lights you would see it even on that distance. It is not because I am further away here, but because the effect of the motherboard has stopped. If it would be last year at this time, you would see the effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwang Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Try taking a photo of a light in portrait mode, Radi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abasio Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Let me quote myself To be fair radi you are much further away from the lights in the last photos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radi6404 Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 Abasio, I allready answered to your quote. Try taking a photo of a light in portrait mode, Radi. What is portrait mode exactly? You will notice that what I tell is the truth as soon as I am at that place again and take a shot of those lights again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwang Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 What is portrait mode exactly? Turn the camera round 90o so that the photo comes out tall and thin instead of short and wide. Make sure you don't touch the lens beforehand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abasio Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Abasio, I allready answered to your quote. I see the edit works against me! Damn you!! If the motherboard was altering the lights you would see it even on that distance. It is not because I am further away here, but because the effect of the motherboard has stopped. If it would be last year at this time, you would see the effect. This makes no sense against your arguments. If the motherboard was altering the lights you would see it at that distance but as you can clearly see from your comparison photo you cannot see it from that distance. Why has the motherboard stopped because you and your camera are further away? Is it tuned to your psychic frequency? If it is then how are we supposed to perceive it the same way you do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radi6404 Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 Abasio, you know that the pictures without the lines are not taken from that time the motherboard was altering the atmosphere. They are taken an hour ago, the motherboard was last year, and I told you, that the effect of the motherboard stopped last year April, so ofcourse there will be no lines on the other pics, or not the same one directional lines at least. If you think clearly and allow the pictures to be true, you will see how the lines are different from normal lens flare. There is more evidence supporting the motherboard theory like videos where you see the effects aswell. Tell me, why should I be lying? I only took the pictures because of the effects, I saw it with my eyes and the camera saw it aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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radi6404 Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 If you think that this will make the thread more rediculous, than you are highly mistaken. You know what, I can be absurd, lying, be crazy in my head or have no clue, but technical equipment, it can´t, at least in our known reality. The effects appeared in 6 pictures in a row so it is evidence enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwang Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 If you think that this will make the thread more rediculous, than you are highly mistaken. Indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radi6404 Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 rotwang, you can stop posting such silly commends, in order to insult me. It is a common reaction of reality addicts to respond by humiliating or laughing at suggested theories, that just don`t make any sence to them. But in the end it is not the theories, but the persons, for whom those theories are just too complicated. What will happen if I take pictures of that place with the same lightning conditions in portraid mode and normal mode, even record videos, and you will not see the lines in that way? Will you or others stil find some excuse why my theory has no ground? If so, it is just like saying to a red car, that it is white, no different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwang Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 It is a common reaction of reality addicts to respond by humiliating or laughing at suggested theories, that just don`t make any sence to them. I haven't laughed at your theory, I've asked for some information that will help test it. Have you taken a photo in portrait mode? If so, how did it turn out? But in the end it is not the theories, but the persons, for whom those theories are just too complicated. My PhD thesis was on a thermodynamic limit of a supersymmetric quantum gauge theory on a curved four-dimensional spacetime. With all due respect, it's unlikely that the theories you come up with are going to be too complicated for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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