"V/A - The World Beyond"

[Paul Eye]

Oh damn, must have missed that.

[BraneFreeze]

I'm really impressed that no one here on Psynews, or on Ektoplazm (heck, even on Facebook) don't want to spoil the fun for the new audience who might missed this release with revealing the artists/projects featured on TWB. It does make some sense since the essential point or idea was to present music, not names...

 

 

Well, I hope that at some point the names will be revealed, especially so that we can give proper credit for the final two tracks.

 

 

[Paul Eye]

The riddles on the artwork aren't particularly difficult to solve, especially as there's a key to the font used.

I'd like for it to stay a mystery for anyone who can't be bothered to figure it out themselves

[Bill]

One of the artists for track four is revealed in the first page of this thread.

[Richpa]

As Pauli said, the riddles aren't that hard to solve after the translation. It might be hard to people who are not into Neogoa discography, but to someone who followed our work since the Dimensional Gateway, it's piece of cake.

 

In case you want to know, here they are...

 

 

 

 

 

Riddles:

 

First one dissolved the brain, Second one spaced out of the Exosphere

 

First one is a specialist in sound, Second one is in perpetum mobile

 

First one knows the future of mankind, Second one has crossed the Rubicon

 

First one has the force, Second one has seen the chromatic world

 

 

Artists:

 

The Vision (PsiloCybian and Perfect Blind)

The Journey (Lectro Spektral Daze and JaraLuca)

The Gate (Lunar Dawn and Arronax)

The Sphere (GoaTree and Morphic Resonance)

 

 

 

[BraneFreeze]

 

Thanks

[Jon Cocco]

V/A - The World Beyond
Ambient, Downtempo, Goa, Neo goa, Psy/Goa
2015

 

1. Chapter I: The Vision (Passing The Monolith Into The Throat Of Time) ... 0.00
2. Chapter II: The Journey (Across The Silver Sea Of Eternal Life) ... 17:10
3. Chapter III: The Gate (Facing The Keeper Below The Human-Form Mountain) ... 33.08
4. Chapter IV: The Sphere (Ascending Towards Star-Eaters To Become The One) 51.53

This is a very interesting, exploratory album that grows from patiently slow ambient to MAGNIFICENTLY ENJOYABLE & EXCITING GOA-TRANCE. The album begins as atmospheric ambient before transitioning to psy/ambient-influenced down/mid-tempo with ethnic, tribal (Psy/Goa) influence before THEN evolving into some of the best Goa-Trance I have heard in over a decade. And you know what? You'd never hear it early on! Some of you may not even believe me until you hear The Gate (!!!) and The Sphere (!) which take up roughly half of the 75 minute album.

1. Chapter I: The Vision (Passing The Monolith Into The Throat Of Time) is a 17 minute atmospheric ambient piece. Initially I skipped through this to the more accessible numbers before going back and listening to it in its entirety. The song requires patience. The atmosphere and echoed effects are intriguing and explorative, as if we're going deep underground in a cavern or a gateway to another dimension. These elements compliment the soundscapes that simmer across the ethereal backdrop (with no beat). Where is it taking us? Anyway, to back up for a moment.. the first 5-6 minutes (minus the opening minute) initially felt like forever. Naturally, more sounds arrived, albeit gradually to engage me a little more rather than how I was feeling before..."Oh this is different." Unique for sure. I would have preferred more ambient direction to make me feel more emotionally invested and hooked earlier on. I realize that this is part of a bigger vision. Fortunately, the song improves. It's mostly ambient, though roughly two-third of the way through, a gentle (downtempo-esque) beat enters which helps, along with some other elements that enhance. Shut your eyes. Focus on your breathing and try to let go listening to this... Speaking of the track's mechanics, where do the artists find such unique sounds? The ambient-esque sound FX in the sixth minute is interesting. The gentle drum work is pretty good too. At around 10:35, there is a (is that reverb or bass?) sound that interests me more. I haven't heard ambient work this lengthy since maybe Jikkenteki's (Ambient Side CD), The Long Walk Home (2006). In some ways I admire this opening track more than I enjoy it, but it is immersive and creative in its own way. The song is rich with textures and sounds, but remains fairly cold, ominous, and alien due to its lack of warmth, feeling, and tone. Some will find it interesting. Some will feel bored. I do not consider this a boring track though, at least not as a whole. Consider this is an epic (unlike anything you've ever heard) entrance to what lies ahead, and what lies ahead is worth it. B+

2. Chapter II: The Journey (Across The Silver Sea Of Eternal Life) takes us deeper underground or through whatever portal or passage way we're moving through. This is another mysterious, eerie, fairly dark and mystical ambient-influenced song. It feels like a homogenous continuation to the larger story as the track list shows. The echoed drum/click sounds are gripping. The fact that the drum isn't a kick drum here is more unique until 23:41 where a kick drum enters and enjoyably so. This intriguing down to mid-tempo chapter has immersive buildup as it enters an interlude. The music returns with greater engagement and development. It's excellent. I love the tribal sounds, drums, echoed voice FX, the synth work, etc. I love the tribal, more trancey changes and song overall, the Goa melodies, atmosphere, ambient, etc. The track is so creative, catchy, and trancey. Beautiful, interesting, immersive! I'm impressed. A-

3. Chapter III: The Gate (Facing The Keeper Below The Human-Form Mountain) is where things get really exciting. The dark ambient-influenced and mystic introduction is interesting, and creates strong atmosphere and foundation before the beat and synth work arrive via the second minute. The synth work in the second minute is VERY CATCHY! Nice work with the complimentary sounds too. There is a whirling effect, and a strong lead enters at 4:53. It's smooth, fluid, and gripping. I'm hooked. The rhythmic synth work throughout the fifth minute is great. But I was ready for its measure to change (the next part of the song to begin) at 5:49. It's here the song begins to DRAG and GROW REPETITIVE. In that sense, the song begins to feel like it's stuck in a loop, especially by the first quarter of the sixth minute. So it could have ended earlier, and that's my biggest complaint. The music loses the now over-stayed its welcome lead and enters more refreshing terrain via 6:45. The ethereal sounds in the seventh minute is great; same with our passing the eighth minute. I love the ethereal sounds and changes throughout the song! There is a brief interlude for us to catch our breath, and for the song to re-collect itself to evolve. The artists fully take advantage of this. The development via 9:18 is intriguing, eerie. This section grows increasingly more engaging before one of the CATCHIEST parts of the song takes place at 10:28. Without climax or expectation, I'm blown away. This design in synth work is SUPERB, EDGY, WICKEDLY ADDICTIVE. Here, the atmosphere changes. The rhythm picks up and by 11:41, the song introduces a refreshing section! Another strong segment is at 13:32. It's dark, effective, with a touch of power -- this part grows until it explodes into climax at 14:30 -- another SUPERB part. The sound variation/arrangement that arrives soon after is great. Message to Artists: Well done! Thank you so much for going above and beyond. This track surpassed my expectations. Few nitpicks with a dragging lead/climactic section for roughly a minute aside, The Gate is one of the best Goa songs of 2015, and one of the best Goa songs I have head. These guys know how to build a track. It's chock full of unexpected elements that are attention grabbing, evocative, and enhance the whole. The Gate is DARK, IMAGINATIVE, MYSTICAL, SUPERB. I'm blown away every time I hear it. It has been so long since I heard any song in Goa, since maybe Chi.-A.D.'s Anno Domini's album or Sandman's Witchcraft albums from the 90's that I recall describing a track being DARKLY MAGICAL. Outstanding work! A

4. Chapter IV: The Sphere (Ascending Towards Star-Eaters To Become The One) breaks out early on. This is the second (arguably third) uptempo number and it's pretty epic at roughly 20 minutes long. Early on I miss the atmosphere and mystical elements from The Gate, but the rhythm via sound/melody synth work is high octane and driving. It changes up and keeps my attention. The Middle-Eastern melodies are nice, but I'm not in awe (melody/sound wise) in the first act. though it isn't until the second act forward that the song begins to reveal how strong its hand is. The music chills out via interlude for around two minutes (very nice!). Here is where things begin to get interesting. After what The Gate just did, I want the music to get more elaborate and infectious so much. The extended interlude is strong and beautifully developed. Then gradually, a computerized (sleek, futuristic) synth enters, and THIS changes everything. This is where the song becomes strikingly catchier (what I hoped for!). From this point forward, the song is multiple times catchier than what preceded it. The synth work is absorbing, musically intoxicating. YES! I didn't see it early on, just the uptempo energy but not how hooked I'd be via what later would emerge. I love being surprised in good ways, impressed. Oh wait, there are still 10 minutes left?! NO WAY??!!!! And it's still changing, engaging with great ideas, execution, sound/melody work, climax, etc. I think you guys can figure out the rest. Whoever these artist(s) are, they did it. They made another awesome track! Put on a good pair of ear buds or head phones and enjoy! A

CONCLUSION
The World Beyond is an epic album that rewards patience and grows catchier as it progresses. Words do not give justice to this release. You have to experience it for yourself. As said above, the album starts slow with an atmospheric/exploratory dark ambient number, and builds into a Goatrance beast. Don't let the opening track fool you into thinking things don't pick up, because they most certainly do. The album is mysterious, mystical, innovative, psychedelic (kinda goes without saying), journey-esque, visionary, daring, and thrilling. Ektoplasm has released some of the best albums in 2015 to date including Lunar Dawn - Kolovrat and I imagine a few others. This one is darker, more edgy, and raw. It oozes with innovation, ingenuity, passion, and ambition. The opening track's bold, risk-taking albeit slow nature may divide listeners early on, but the ride is really worth it. Goatrance music is supposed to evolve. It isn't supposed to be linear or formulaic (by-the-numbers) as some new school songs have been over the years. Some artists have gotten lazy (going through the motions) while others have helped to restore Goa to greatness by seeing it as more alive, surreal, magical, and ever-expanding like our Universe. The World Beyond shatters contrived approaches and reinvigorates the genre with fire, heart, and spirit. I really enjoyed the transitional (between dark and dark/light it seems) second track. I feel like that song hasn't received as much appreciation as it deserves considering once things take off, they REALLY take off in the third and forth track so enjoy and appreciate the first two tracks as creative numbers that double as buildup. The second song does a great job bridging the energy from slower to more powerful. Naturally, the last two tracks are excellent, superb. I mean outstanding guys really. Kudos to everyone involved. The World beyond is daring, imaginative, and surreal. It puts the fantasy back into Goa-Trance. and is one of the best albums I have ever heard in my life, specially The Gate and The Sphere are diamonds among a crown of gems. Not even Filteria's Sky Input reached the masterful (intense AND elegant) level of Pleiadian's I.F.O. album, but tracks 3+4 here do it. They are so incredibly CATCHY. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. This is an amazing release. Please make a sequel that attempts to go above and beyond with the very best work here and you have one of the greatest albums in Goa/Electronic music. Some will already consider this one of the best albums in Goa considering so much of it is SUPERB.

 

LOVE THIS !!!!!!!

 

A-

COVER ART
The cover art is surreal, dark and mystical, reflective of the music. Great work whoever designed it. Also, thank you artists and Ektoplazm for this awesome, visionary release. I am blown away.

Steam the FULL ALBUM on YouTube or Ektoplazm at the link below.

ALBUM STORY / MEANING & SYMBOLISM / COVER ART
Going by the album via the cover art's symbolism, does it have something to do with the Hollow ("Inner") Earth theory aka Agartha via Shangri-La (Shambala), and the city of Telos where it is alleged that ancient civilizations have evolved consciously and reside in a culturally higher vibration (that many including myself refer to as 4th and/or 5th dimensional)?? James Redfield discusses this in his critically acclaimed book, "The Secret of Shambala: In Search of the Eleventh Insight" (!!!). Being that it's the third book of the Celestine Series. Part 1 is "The Celestine Prophecy" (!!!). Part 2 is "The Tenth Insight"(!!) They're all very insightful and aware (consciousness wise). I highly encourage everyone to read them. Just like aura's and psychic abilities that we CAN untap, self-healing and more, mystical, physical realms are REAL in my opinion. There are supposedly gateways scattered throughout the world that cannot be perceived unless one has increased his/her vibrational frequency and comes from a place pure heart and wholeness, without selfish intentions. Cultures and spiritualists have talked about our Earth's Shangri-La as a real, physical place that will become available to all as our civilization awakens to a higher vibration (the awakening) of love, presence, higher truth, higher consciousness. Many claim that there is a WORLD inside our Earth and we are simply living on the surface. Meditate on that. It took me about a year to process, research, meditate and reflect on before though affirmations and investing energy in -- I began seeing things that have now convinced me that the biggest secret (some call it) of the world is not that aliens have visited, but the reality that our planet is far more mysterious and amazing than we ever imagined.

 

To me, the cover looks like a ship entering a multi-dimenional gateway. Like the album, it's dark and mysterious, ethereal and intriguing. Since 4th dimensional consciousness involves duality -- light and dark, unlike acquiring a light body via fifth dimensional consciousness, my inference is the mystical via 4th dimension. 4D realms are not some far away planets (alone) but accessible here and now through a state (shift) in consciousness. In other words, I believe a physical (higher vibrational) reality simultaneously exists where we reside and our 3D frequency (via awakening) is increasing towards us residing in this heaven on Earth (The New Earth). Furthemore, a recent Harvard study suggests that an Earth inside our Earth may exist. Link: http://themindunleashed.org/2014/06/new-study-suggests-may-part-ancient-earth-inside-earth.html

Am I close Paul and Richpa to your intentions behind this album or nowhere near? lol. Naturally, I don't want to distract from the thread if this theory is not related to the album's cover, riddle, or vision of the CD. There are darker realms associated with extended consciousness (one can access them without any use of drugs), but I highly recommend focusing on the positive. Stay elevated and keep your vibration up. The Earth Changes have begun. Earth's vibration (schumann resonance) is increasing, and the awakening is accelerating! Anyway this topic will only add to the mythos of the artists work. The album is a real journey, and when I think of the beyond considering the album's title is "The World Beyond," I think of the inner Earth (theory) which I've read so much about, and now am convinced is real. This is a higher truth IMO. Some feel tingling sensations and clarity around vortexes. When increasing our vibration higher enough and through a place of love, openness, and whole intention, the vortex can appear as a subtle or luminous/fluorescent gateway and one can enter/visit (I'd imagine ). Is that a ship entering a gateway on the cover?, I wonder.

 

Available to Play or Download for Free @
http://www.ektoplazm.com/free-music/the-world-beyond

[Richpa]

ALBUM STORY / MEANING & SYMBOLISM / COVER ART

Going by the album, the cover art's symbolism, does it have something to do with the [...]

Hey Jon, thanks for the in-depth review for this one. Speaking about the symbols, this might be helpful:

 

https://scontent-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/p180x540/10352735_354179254770714_6259281414220613218_n.jpg?oh=bbb48f4ba95284674295d325f1b6a9cc&oe=55DEAE31

 

Cheers

[Starkraver]

I love you Neogoa!

Thanks to everyone who made this happen.

 

First two tracks are lovely!

Journey is so beautiful.

Even though people above have made great justice to the last two tracks: The Gate and The Sphere with their review. You just can't express the feeling in words. You have to LISTEN to them to experience it! Breathtaking combo.

 

Sphere- Damn! Why you got to be just 23 min's long

We want MORE.

[Starkraver]

The Sphere eats Pleiadians for breakfast. Seriously.

Pleiadianophage!

 

Edit: May be you wanna give that old Pleiadians a listen Paulie "Taygeta--Merope--Acyclone" that combo

[Anu Katariina]

I guess it is time for me to comment on this topic, too. The World Beyond is a cohesive, skillfully brought-together album with some serious highlights like The Gate. Those who know me have already heard through facebook how this spesific track kinda changed my life since I was in a heavy metal listening period for long and did not pay attention to so much goa..until I heard The Gate. Dammit! Such a devastating listening experience it was and still is on a daily basis. Ppl might not believe but this The Gate def is my number one goa track ever brought into the existence. Listen to the basic beat!! Who produces that if not the best psychiatrists in the world = the best psychedelic music producers on the fuckin' planet <3 <3 <3 The gate is such a baby, a zero level, and I will never let it go!

[Anu Katariina]

Since the live perfomance of The Gate (Arronax Live @ Neogoa vs Timewarp, Das Haus) cannot be linked directly here go and check Arronax fb official posted May 6th: awesome 4:23 min live capture of The Gate from big PA oooohhh!! https://www.facebook.com/arronaxtrance?fref=ts

[Richpa]

His whole live was stellar and I enjoyed every second of it, but yes, some special feelings filled the whole floor when that track was played live for the first time.

[Richpa]

Another review has been posted for The World Beyond, this time it's by George De Bruin at Cerebral Rift (True Indie Music From The Commons):

Link to review: http://cerebralrift.org/2015/05/01/the-world-beyond-the-world-beyond/

 

Artist: The World Beyond
Title / Release Page: The World Beyond
Release Date: 2015 March 20
Genre: Ambient / Psytrance / Goatrance
License: CC BY-NC-SA
Media: MP3 / FLAC / WAV
Pricing: Free / Donation
Label: Neogoa / Ektoplazm
Rating: ★★★★★★★★★★

 

The World Beyond is the most appropriate title for this release imaginable. It starts out clearly in one world, and by the end has taken the listener to a new level. It’s unique in that unlike many other releases it isn’t firmly within a single genre, and it does bear resemblance to other music styles.

 

The World Beyond

 

So, as anyone who has read my reviews in the past knows, I probably have very little street cred when it comes to EDM. I am a late comer to this style, and even though I have been listening to it for the past seven or eight years, it hasn’t held a central role in my listening. That being said, I tend to like some releases because I am able to hear them in a way that others don’t: within the context of a much deeper (read historical) understanding of electronic music going back to the 1960’s and 1970’s.

 

And it’s because of this understanding I can relate to this release on a couple of different levels. First, the idea of four inter-locking tracks that tell a story (of sorts) is a throw back to the concept albums of rock groups like Yes, Pink Floyd, King Crimson and others. The fact that this release is a full 78 minutes long, with no track under 15 minutes in length speaks loudly to this idea.

 

Second is that I hear another layer to this release that seems to be missing from much of the analysis / reviews of the work I have read. Many people have dismissed the first track as a “boring ambient” piece of work. However, I believe that ‘The Vision’ is a double-entendre of a title. In this case ‘The Vision’ refers to the past, and the early visionaries of electronic music. This particular track is paying respect to Klaus Schulze. Many of the sounds / samples and effects in use are traced to ‘The Dome Event’ and ‘Beyond Recall’.

 

Moving onward, the second track opens with section that also sounds like it is based on Klaus Schulze’s work, but then starts bringing in many of elements of other earlier artists, like Tangerine Dream, etc. By around the middle of the song we hear the emergence of tribal drumming elements, and other counterpoint that moves the piece forward. This is possibly a tip of the hat to artists like Future Sound of London, in particular The Papua New Guinea remixes, although certainly many other artists. It’s in the last three minutes of this track that we hit more modern trance style beats and the speed of the track picks up from the mid-tempo it has been in for the last 12 minutes.

 

Finally there are the last two tracks:forty-two plus minutes of full on Goa / Trance style music. These are the tracks that everyone has gone over the top in love with. And I have to admit. in this setting I fnially get the appeal of this style of music. There is a a lot of suspense in this music, as you are brought to even higher heights with the beats, and the layered lines of synths and other sounds. By the time you reach the conclusion you will likely be extremely tired, at least I am, holding on to the rhythms, riding the vibe all the way through, and feeling the energy all about: both coming into me, and the energy that is leaving my body.

 

Reality is, this is possibly one of the most enjoyable rides I have been on in a long time. It’s a high energy wave pouring out all over my space, and it’s something that just cannot be stopped.

 

Conclusion

 

Like others, I have not tried to figure out who the collaborators are on this release. Although I have found the note that reveals them, I won’t reference it here. I was not familiar enough with the Neogoa catalog to even hazard a guess, so it wouldn’t be fair of me to reveal the artists here.

I love what this release does, although for possibly different reasons than many normal listeners to PsyTrance and Goa styles of music. This release links the past to the present. It takes the listener from this world into The World Beyond this one, and into a vision beyond this world.

[johnb820]

Wow! It's always a little funny reading people try to describe goa/psy trance when they are, for the most part, unfamiliar with it.

 

 

There is a a lot of suspense in this music, as you are brought to even higher heights with the beats, and the layered lines of synths and other sounds. By the time you reach the conclusion you will likely be extremely tired, at least I am, holding on to the rhythms, riding the vibe all the way through, and feeling the energy all about: both coming into me, and the energy that is leaving my body.

 

I like this bit.

[Bill]

Cool review! Throughout he seems to think his listening and appreciation is different from ours when in fact it's very, very similar. He gets it, good for him!

[Anu Katariina]

Very wonderful news people!

 

There is a high possibility to get this priceless release added in your collection as a CD. For more info about what's going on go see Reviews 2015 --> Lunar Dawn/Kolovrat, where the issue is freshly discussed

[astralprojection]

(first of all, no im not a troll or a recurrent user (ive read this site for quite some time and im not one of those people, i mask my IP EVERYWHERE because im paranoid seeing as it is incredibly easy hacking a website such as this and getting the database)

 

 

Anyway, besides the incredibly boring generic "neo goa" album "art" the sound is nice and groovy. Good album.

 

But I reeeeeeally would wish someone really would do something about these shi**y artworks. Every single album looks almost identical. And equally bad. Im not trying to sh*t on anyone, Im saying it as constructive critisizm.

Ive seen these crappy artworks being released time and time and time again, and really, its the face of Neogoa (not the label, the music) even if you want it to or not.

And it is NOT sending the right message.

I think Im entitled to my honest opinion without being bashed for it.

 

The artwork is incredibly bad and even I could do a better one using just photoshop and a Fractal Generator (pick your tool).

 

The fonts are terrible, the imagination is terrible, or rather LACK of imagination. Have "we" gotten so lazy?

 

This looks almost as good as some Transwave record from 1996. Back then it was cool. Now its LAAAME.

 

Again I want to bring up Nova Fractals EP Lost Souls. That one is awesome. Learn from that.

 

Not everything Goa related must have to do with fractals and poor psychedelic imagery with fonts not even searched for, but found within Photoshop's default font library.

Ugh.

[Dolmot]

incredibly boring

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shi**y artworks

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equally bad

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crappy artworks

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incredibly bad

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terrible

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terrible

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LAAAME

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Ugh.

Im saying it as constructive critisizm.

I think Im entitled to my honest opinion without being bashed for it.

Just out of interest, if this is still constructive, what would count as "bashing" on your scale?

[Richpa]

...

Thanks for your opinion and input regarding the artwork produced by Neogoa Design on yet another topic. I'm glad you like the music tho!

 

Cheers

[astralprojection]

Just out of interest, if this is still constructive, what would count as "bashing" on your scale?

Wow, I didnt realise blatantly taking out all my negative words out of context like that was grounds for a fair discussion.

Is this usually how you handle arguments? Nitpicking the words of a post, then replying only to those words?

If you read my post and had the decency to actually quote all of it, you would realise even though it has harsh words, it is yet constructive critisism. I would like the covers of all New School Goa albums be completely revisited, and not so bland and generic as they are right now. Again, Im not pointing fingers at anyone, I am pointing fingers to the entire "cover making industry" if you get my meaning. No labels in particular. However Suntrip and Neogoa seems to have the worst covers as of now. Global Sect has really really good covers to name a label with great covers (most of them).

 

Bashing would be JUST saying bad things, i.e your "quote" from me. Childish way of argumenting with someone if you ask me.

 

Thanks for your opinion and input regarding the artwork produced by Neogoa Design on yet another topic. I'm glad you like the music tho!

 

Cheers

Dont take it personally, I just wish you would go a different direction entirely. I am just one person, you can either chose to listen to my input or completely ignore it.

I respect you for not acting immature, and yes I do like the music you guys put out. And I thank you for that.

Again, its not personally, its most covers in the entire scene. Just go check most cover-arts on Ektoplasm, sure, they are indie labels, and indie artits, and most of them arent pros - but they all go for the "fractal, mandala-ish, hippie type" designs.. And I would like it to change.

 

Again, Im just one person, venting my opinion on the subject matter. And I respect you for not taking it personally and not acting immature like the other guy.

 

Cheers bro.

[Anu Katariina]

Again, Im just one person, venting my opinion on the subject matter. And I respect you for not taking it personally and not acting immature like the other guy.

 

Cheers bro.

 

 

Neither of them did. As for Richpa he's more than responsive to feedback. This is what he posted on his fb profile, the closing words: "As always dear friends, if you want to stay in touch with anything design-related hit our Neogoa Design page here on Facebook and send me/us your feedback, it helps a lot to improve our work!". This post was made 18 hours ago before your post and it's public.

 

Because your original critics had to do with Neogoa netlabel's design especially I want ya to realize this: this man is hands full of work and because of all free stuff he's doing for the community out of a big heart: give him slack. I wouldn't want any delay of upcoming releases because of artwork. But I understood some of your points, though. And when Neogoa CD's come I am positive the covers will be under radar.

[astralprojection]

This post was made 18 hours ago before your post and it's public.

I didnt know this, since I do not have facebook, and never have actually.

Because your original critics had to do with Neogoa netlabel's design especially I want ya to realize this: this man is hands full of work and because of all free stuff he's doing for the community out of a big heart: give him slack. I wouldn't want any delay of upcoming releases because of artwork. But I understood some of your points, though. And when Neogoa CD's come I am positive the covers will be under radar.

I guess my initial critizism was directed at Neogoa label AND Suntrip label, it has since been switched towards the entire Neo Goa scene.

If It came across as I was picking on Richpa Personally, I must apologize to him and that is indeed an heartfelt apology. I know he struggles and probably makes 2-3 covers/week.

 

But my (or anys for that matter) critizism shouldnt be boyied due to someones feelings might get hurt (never said yours did, Richpa) and I (and all of us) are entitled to our opinions.

 

And since the same type of Albumart has been produced since the first Filteria album, lack of a few one and there - and Richpa is responsible for many of them - aswell as Suntrip - sure, my critizism is directed at them a little bit more so than any other labels.

Since they are the two major ones currently.

 

But like I said, my critisizm is towards EVERYONE who are making artwork for Neo Goa music.

 

I would like to end again, by saying, Im just one guy, Im not speaking for more than one person.

And sometimes critizism must be made in a somewhat "harsh" manner to come across in a way that someone really listens..

Anyway, I have given some examples of good artwork (I could me more precise than just some Global Sect releases of course) but why would that matter. Noone cares about my opinion when it comes to what I like.

 

But when it comes to things I DONT like, I seem to create alot of fuzz. For me, the fuzz is good because it has people talking about it. But I dont want to hurt anyones feelings doing it.

[Starkraver]

Dude got a point. There are lots of similar looking fractal, geometrical patterns in the artworks. But are they bad? That's just about taste, I guess.

 

By Filteria you mean 1st and 2nd album?

 

I wonder what you would think about Ultimae Records Covers

[Anu Katariina]

For me, the fuzz is good because it has people talking about it. But I dont want to hurt anyones feelings doing it.

 

Some fermenting sure is needed to get attention. And in psynews especially with over a million posts (noticed it today that we have so much, lol)..but always with respect. I think the outcome here is that no one got hurt. Forum rules well fulfilled. Seen loooots of worse here