Ake Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Hey guys, sorry to say this but during the last days i noticed that i actually never talked to any manager who is not some kind of fraud. Speaking about the psy scene here. It's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scandinasia Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Wait ? Managers do exist in the psy scene ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ake Posted May 2, 2015 Author Share Posted May 2, 2015 They call themselves managers, CEOs, Owners... don't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padmapani Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Hey guys, sorry to say this but during the last days i noticed that i actually never talked to any manager who is not some kind of fraud. Speaking about the psy scene here. It's true. you mean like thomas vitali, the owner of the plusquam label group, who also poses as the female artist psynina in his spare time (and who also singlehandedly destroyed many once great labels by buying them and releasing cheesy crap)? but really, i think this applies even more (but of course better hidden) to managers of corporations. the more money is involved, the more corruption, lies and fraud you'll find with the people in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ake Posted May 2, 2015 Author Share Posted May 2, 2015 Exactly! Oh and yes, that Vitali pussy is quite a special friend of mine... https://www.mixcloud.com/ake_melting_runes/full-hidden-meaning-mixed-by-ake/ <3 I'm happy to be a member of labels, but not for some weird reasons. My mission is for the kids, for nobody else. Thanks for reading! I'm sure all those guys, all the managers are nice guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transistor91 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Almost all people are frauds and/or idiots. Seems like a fact of our world. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masen023 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 There is this Israeli guy (whose name i will not mention).... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoebis Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 There is this Israeli guy (whose name i will not mention).... There are several... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richpa Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I'll throw some positive examples for label managers with whom I worked with. All of them acted highly professional whenever there was any project we worked on together, and the communication was on high level, aswell as their input with the new ideas... and what matters the most, all of them care about promotion of Goa trance music: Renato (Nova Fractal) at Timewarp Records, Jos (Anoebis) and Mars at Suntrip Records, Alex (Ephedra) at Goa Madness Records, Elias (Agneton) at Sita Records, Draeke at DAT Records, Christian (Samsara) at Random Records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychedelic Alien Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I'll throw some positive examples for label managers with whom I worked with. All of them acted highly professional whenever there was any project we worked on together, and the communication was on high level, aswell as their input with the new ideas... and what matters the most, all of them care about promotion of Goa trance music: Renato (Nova Fractal) at Timewarp Records, Jos (Anoebis) and Mars at Suntrip Records, Alex (Ephedra) at Goa Madness Records, Elias (Agneton) at Sita Records, Draeke at DAT Records, Christian (Samsara) at Random Records. Maybe I'm wrong, but Anoebis, Nova Fractal, Elias, etc are not managers but label owners, right? I thought a manager is someone who fixes all for artists... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ake Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 Anyway, i still love you pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draeke Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I wonder why would I be a fraud? makes me wonder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Sunray Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Maybe I'm wrong, but Anoebis, Nova Fractal, Elias, etc are not managers but label owners, right? I thought a manager is someone who fixes all for artists... Well, IMHO the difference between an owner and a manager (not only related to music bizz) is: The owner has a high personal interest on the project. He put a lot of his time, money & whatever into it and he might depend on the project to be successfully (for being able to pay his bills) .. It's all about the project. The manager was hired to organize stuff. If the project fails, he will join another one. Success is not so supper-critical from him, it's more about the title on the business card, building up his business-network, ect.. it's all bout the career. Already explains why working with an owner is sooooo much different than working with a manager (again, not only related to music bizz) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoebis Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 For music this is a total different thing...The owner of a label:The person who choses & makes certain cds, runs the label, makes the artists happy etc. He has not a financial benefit of it per sé... Mostly out of love. (at least in goa-trance)A manager:someone who takes care of an artist, makes sure he gets booked and he gets money for that, so it's a financial thing to earn money... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova Fractal Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Maybe I'm wrong, but Anoebis, Nova Fractal, Elias, etc are not managers but label owners, right? I thought a manager is someone who fixes all for artists... Well in my case I'm not the label owner, I already wrote that couple of times I think ...Timewarp label is my idea and all but owner is Geomagnetic.tv ...So basically my job is mostly selection music for them, compiling VA etc... and also I'm the first link between artist and distribution, If music is OK to release then I connect artist with owners and other staff like contract etc. is done between them self. Also I talk a lot with artist, our DJs, help a lot and of course doing my part of promotion as much as possible, try to find sometimes gigs for them etc. ....this all takes a lot of free time, I like this and I do all this mostly for free, there is no profit here for me, for my service I just get some CDs that I try to sell and that is my fee ...since this is Goa trance and we mostly work with new artist it is almost impossible to ask % from any release...so I will try to do my "management" as long as I can 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ake Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 Fede: Sorry pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ake Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 https://plus.google.com/+AkeViasax/posts/RPKSQAfv7Q1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penzoline Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 You can cut the spam right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ake Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 Right. Done. See above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proxeeus Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Well in my case I'm not the label owner, I already wrote that couple of times I think ...Timewarp label is my idea and all but owner is Geomagnetic.tv ... Well, I learned something today! I could have sworn you were the owner of Timewarp Recs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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