Guest fob lippy Posted February 15, 2004 Share Posted February 15, 2004 There are other styles of electronic music so much more psychadelic than "psy" trance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Manu_S Posted February 15, 2004 Share Posted February 15, 2004 i just wait for another Chi-AD album like Anno Domini... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HAch Posted February 15, 2004 Share Posted February 15, 2004 Well thank all of you for giving me comments : ) .... after reading this i only can say that for all of us who where there in those days, something is not right these ones.... but who cares... personally i found much more pleasent hearin in house and progressive or almost any other kind of music that hearing psy ...psy music sounds too childish too me.... i think its more me than the scene... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest volvox box Posted February 16, 2004 Share Posted February 16, 2004 When we already discuss about the psymusic, how do you dudez really understand the word 'psychedelic'? The music melodic, synchronized, harmonic existed 2000 years ago, and i guess its in our genes, so how come still melody can be psychedelic? Personally as i came to the word psychedelic i understand it as "weird", which means that everything that can wipe me out of my body and then my soul can say 'oh my god wtf is this is fo fuckin unexplainable . . ' i can myself call it psychedelic. So i hear melodies all my live and they only gave me feelings, which i felt before, so nothing new nothing for me PSY. I wonder what you call 'psychedelic' ? really like to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K Posted February 16, 2004 Share Posted February 16, 2004 I never really understood all the fuss around this word. Or maybe I did : 2 things always get mixed up : 1. The MEANING of psychedelic. 2. The things we EXPERIENCE as psychedelic. IMO we could all agree on the first, but certainly not on the second. 1. You can find a very good definition here. 2. For you, maybe there isn't a single melody which sounds psychedelic to your ears, but it is not the case for others. Melodies are just a medium, and to go a step further, so are sounds. IMO you can't make such a general statement. All in all, melodies are nothing but sequences of sounds speaking (more or less) to your spirit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lepton Posted February 16, 2004 Share Posted February 16, 2004 I really don't understand why people don't like today's music; its better than ever (production quality,styles,ideas). Offcourse their is a lott of full-on coming out today that sounds the same but hé nobody force you to listen to it. For me (and I can dig every style) oldschool is boring music compared to the in your face psychedelica of scatterbrain,kindzadza,seroxat. I even call it formulated : just a kick (a simple one nothing compared to today's kick) with a bassline a melodie, acidlines and some more fx nothing more. The thing with today's music is that it is far more subtile. Listen to the kindzadza album which is tha bomb. You might think that there is no melody but if you listen to the bassline the rythm and the fx's all to getter than you will notice an sort of melody made out of all those different layers/componets which sound psychedelic as hell. So people who are bored of today's full-on well avoid it and look for other releases there is still some madness and true psychedelica out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Beru (E-Watt Recs) Posted February 16, 2004 Share Posted February 16, 2004 I went to my first goatrance party 10 years ago, and soon after, goa became a genre in itself (it wasn't called psy at the time, and before that, lots of different music styles were played in goa parties). From then on, it has been working the same way. Some guy releases something really original, and 20 artists try to copy him. It has always worked like that, and in this respect nothing has changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest perro andaluz Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 "just a kick (a simple one nothing compared to today's kick)"--> Ha! there's nothing like a goa kick man, the feel and the power takes you to a higher plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 Lepton, it seems to me you're reducing old-school style to the chain-produced tracks which were made at the time. You don't do that for today's music ("Off course their is a lott of full-on coming out today that sounds the same but he nobody force you to listen to it"), why make such a biased statement for yesterday's Trance then ? PS : for me "old-school" means Psy Trance from the 1993-1997 era. Maybe your definition differs from mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lepton Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 Perro : its true there is nothing like a goa kick but honestly those oldschool kicks just ain't as hard and deep as they are now. K: You are right man I did it for yesterday's trance because I 'm sick of hearing people complaining about the formulatic duplicated full-on of today like it is the only kind op psy coming out. All these bad things they say about full-on can also be said about (melodic) oldschool trance. If you prefer oldschool music well just buy old releases and listen to them instead of complaining. There are tons of cd's released in that style and in my eyes they did it very well and already pulled every sound out those 303's so just look for those old jewels its not likely one can own them all but please don't say that today's music is missing something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lepton Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 P.s. K: I didn't mean that you were saying that today's music is missing something and that you are saying bad things about today's music I 'm just generalising these things because I read and hear them all the time. greetzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SCALAR Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Things have been a lot worse... around 1999 in the uk it was just about impossible to get decent trance music. In fact it still is! But Psy-trance at that point seemed laking in new direction and to all intents and purposes dead - to me at least. Things will change, and surely, the people who are now coming into the scene will gradually crave something a bit deeper! There are two ways of looking at it - negative - psy trancce is dead - r.i.p. or positive - psy trance is evolving To me the scene IS without doubt evolving, and i would rather see that than a scene i love stagnant and festering, locked in its own past. Who knows where psy will be in a year from now? if you run far enough and fast enough, you end up right where you began Love! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seraph Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 That was pretty cute definiton, but for example there is this thread I posted about Chi-A.D. The guy hasn't released his album cause label managers don't want to publish old school goa album. COME ON ! I don't see any evolution there...IN fact, I can call it REGRESSION rather than PROGRESSION if some money hungry idiot is dictating who is going to release something on his label. If he only supports making and producing ONE STYLE of music that these days is FULL ON or PROGRESSIVE then there isn't any evolving but deliberate KILLING the old sound which I find disgraceful considering that everyone are raving these days about EVOLUTION, EVOLUTION, EVOLUTION... Yes, sure is evolution if you can't give more chances...Maybe, I could understand that they don't want to publish some trance that amateurs did, but hey, that is CHI-A.D. for god sake ! No, it is not about evolution but about greed, fashion and being IN CROWD...Blah !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest scalar Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 I had not heard that about Chi A.D. but... and this is the bit you won't (i imagine) like... the old sound IS dead - and has been for quite some, which is nothing to cheer about, agreed, but there it is. How?? Because of record labels. 5 years ago there were a healthy(kinda) number of goa record labels, and psy, but as i am sure you are aware, psy is now much more popular(?flawed argument? quite possibly!) than goa for however long this current trend lasts. If a record label wishes to survive it has to make what sells, not what is neccesarily the best music. The high moral ground you RIGHTLY choose to take as a listener would spell financial suicide for the record label, which is a business and therefore duty bound to try and make as much money as possible for its investors. I would like to hear the Chi-AD album too! I have lots of his old tracks and thouroughly enjoyed ones like total perspective vortex for example... Unfortunately, money speaks, and the masses have already chosen, by ensuring they didn't give enough to the old goa labels to survive. I would rather the scene survived albeit in altered form than the labels release music that they cannot survive on and quietly fizzle out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Lost Buddha Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 you are refering "psytrance" as goa-trance. yeah goa isnt dead altought those label creaps dont want to edit it anymore , dont ask me why , its still psychedelic music. now pp, just wants a kick and a bassline and they are in trance , i dont understand it , maybe cause ppl are super junkies now. Psy trance dont fits me and never will , so ill gonna produce Goa as much as i can. Cheers for you Goers who keep the spirit along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr. Gonzo Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 the should take more lsd instead of coke , and make music Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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