seraph Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 Hey people, does anyone know anything about Ra and his upcoming release or any news about Chi-A.D. ? Thnks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jon COCCO Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 OMG, good post, I actually was thinking of posting a topic on "IS there anyone who knows about an upcoming CHI-A.D. album. I too want to know this, just commenting that your not the only one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest etherdesign Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 The Chi-AD album Pathfinder was supposed to be released quite a while ago, but I heard that he can't find a label that will release it because it sounds too much like old goa style. That doesn't seem very plausible to me, but who knows. I have no idea what he's up to now, maybe he went back to death metal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jikkenteki Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 I've heard the same comments about Chi-A.D. not being able to find a label due to his old school sound. My sources have been in direct contact with him and my own experiences (together with other people I know) shopping old school flavored tracks to labels gives me every reason to believe that his comments are 100% correct. Basically if you don't sound like GMS or Astrix, your chances for release are slim to none and this isn't me saying this, it is labels I have sent demos to saying this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JC Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Yeah, I heard he has made a new album and it is complete but it has been postponed for quite some time now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seraph Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 HUH, I can't believe where the trance scene is at these days if master like Chi-A.D. cannot release his album ! What a shame ! ?@$%^@!? This world completely got mad I have to admit and I don't like it...Why not to release it on Out Of Orion again ? Besides, his new album wouldn't be Pathfinder as someone said but Earth Crossing ! Let's all hope for the best ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kristian Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 I'm almost feeling sick when hearing something like "no one wants to release Chi-A.D.s album coz it sounds too much oldschool".. For me it's like the opposite, why release another album sounding "squish-squash-squish-squash-snipp-squish-squash-squish-squash-snipp-squish-squash-squish-squash-snipp-squish-squash-squish-squash-squitsch" - like everything seemes to sound nowadays.. Guess we need more artists doing the sound of oldschool and more labels releasing such aswell. That magic sound is still very much appreciated as anyone can tell by reading these forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rx7style Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 But what about Ra? That's the release I've been waiting for... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seraph Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Yes, those 2 artists make perfect philosophical old school goa trance and they should be the first ones to rule this scene. Ra made one brilliant album, promised another two and then poof, disapeared ! I haven't even read any interview or heard any news from him after reading his interview from this site...He probably had the same problems as Chi-A.D. cause he was also into old school...Now it makes sense to me how there aren't ANY old school releases these days...The label owners are bunch of commerical hippies that after they've seen that more and more people are into trance they decided to make some money after being underground for years...What a shame ! I guess that SYN SUN suffer from the same problem in releasing an album for so long...They also make old school and they are pretty bloody good ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K' Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Yes, but now it seemes that there's an equal demand for records (and therefor equal possibilities in profit) of the oldschool sound again, maybe the labels should realize that and release some of that stuff aswell. Clearly they need to open their eyes and see what people wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Lost Buddha Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Altough goa people , we´re working on Goa but label manager´s are creaps and dont want do label our sound. Ethereal are the newest and the BEST goa labeled artists for now , enjoy they work cause Im ( yeah im a goa producer aswell) am working to do such goa tracks as they do. Me and Infinite Dimensions produce goa but we´re not professional , Infinite is trying to get labeled now. Hope that someone can grab this artist. Cheers to everyone and dont listen psy noisy stuff. Goa rules. Listen Goa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Lost Buddha Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Here´s some link where you Goa ppl can enjoy some goa songs and works in progress: http://www.beatbiz.net/TheLostBuddha/ http://www.beatbiz.net/artist.php?USERID=15 Listen to music , Listen to Melody´s, Listen to GOA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Infinite Dimensions Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 erm, i aint looking to get labelled just for the record However, I am casually looking to license out tracks, but at the end of the day i dont really give a toss and i just love writing electronic music of the goa psy variety. chill buddah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ethereal Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 Yeah, it's the love for the music that keeps us going and creating new tracks, eh? If one is aiming to make a living out of the music, goa-trance is definitely not the right way to go :-/ In that case, it would be better to create some standard psy that conforms to the known formula which has worked well for far too many artists. It's sad, but people are willing to dance to anything as long as there's a heavy kick and a solid bass. Personally, I prefer music with greater depth and atmosphere and that's where goa-trance comes into the picture Ok, it's getting late here and I'll stop my bitter ramblings now ;-) It is great to hear though, that there are people that still loves the oldskool sound! bw /Fredrik from Ethereal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Lost Buddha Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 Yeah i agree Fred , i prefer to have a job and my hobby be Goa-trance than to make a total living of psy x |. Thanks for the compliments my friend. ) we´ll make it whatever it takes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest perro andaluz Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 I think that if you consider yourself a musician and are totally committed to your art no matter what kind of music you make, you should be able to make a living out of it =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ethereal Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 Yes, that would be the case in a perfect world.. but not the miserable one we're living in ;-) /Fredrik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Lost Buddha Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 Perro Andaluz , yes your right but i cant get sufficient money to live and ive got to get a job and make Goa as a hobby ,but dont horry maybe some day goa can gives me the sufficient for living. Goa is my passion and soon ill work in an album . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Lost Buddha Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 Yeah Fred , such misarable that even the MASTERS of Goa cant release their albums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest perro andaluz Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 This makes me sad =( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Lost Buddha Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 Perro Andaluz , dont be , Goa production is not DEAD. Official Releases are. We still produce Goa so dont worry. =) Keep in touch for new Goa news. Thanks for your support. =)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seraph Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 Well, I truly hope that GOA hasn't died, but from global perception of electronic music nowadays, everyone expects high class production, less melodies, strong kicks and AS DARK AS POSSIBLE ! That's why I'm furious and willing to argue about it cause there is a lot of people that are just defending all this as EVOLUTION in sound...hehehe...I haven't heard more silly thing. I am for evolving but not for making the evolution as fashion and suppressing the old sound. I am glad that there is still someone making GOA since there hasn't been any GOA album since Chi-A.D. - Infinitism that wasn't even a proper album but collection of singles...Last real GOA albums were Dimension 5 - Second Phaze ( 2000 ), Ra - To Sirius ( 2000 ) and I have to say that I haven't heard Ethereal yet... But, just keep the tradition Fredrik... I'll get your album as soon as possible... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Lost Buddha Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 Yeah im a little bit furious too cause this shit isnt EVOLUTION , it´s a degraded stupid sound (it´s only my opinion). Seraph thanks for defending Goa aswell and dont stop listening to it. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tsuki Posted February 26, 2004 Share Posted February 26, 2004 goa-masters pleiadians will release their album this year and i hope they will turn things around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jikkenteki Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 I agree with everyone hear that the classic sounds are getting the short end of the stick today. Part of the problem is that the majority of sucessful labels these days are becoming "old boy" networks and none of those old boys want to release melodic tracks. The rest of the mid-level labels are pinched for money as it is and don't want to take a chance with classic sounds, since their distributors (part of the old boy network) might not be willing to push it, so basically you end up with today's scene. While I like a lot of the sounds coming out today, it has gotten WAY to narrow in my opinion. I spent the a good chuck of last year shopping demos and was pretty much ignored by everyone (nothing new there), and the few labels who were kind enough to give me feedback usually gave me the "standard line"... that being "Your chance of release will increase significantly if you make tracks more in the style of GMS". I don't know, but GMS releases more than enough tracks to cover the GMS fans, so I don't understand why EVERY other release has to sound like them. Anyways, I only really see two things we can do to help the improve the situation for the melody side of the scene. First off we need to release that with the situation the old school sound is basically as underground as it was 10 years ago again. Not much support and you need to work to find it again. Regardless the artists need to keep writing their music and finding ways to get it to people. This could take many forms from self releases to making the occassional track and simply giving it away for free on mp3 (I've personally adopted the later approach as you might have noticed is you surf the music making forum). Also there are some small labels out there who are still taking a chance on melodic music, but they are mostly small and not stuff you are going to find on PsyShop and Saiko sounds. Once the underground melodic freaks properly network, spreading the music will be a little bit easier, even without "major label" support. The second to is to support the few releases that do get put out in that style. Buy Ethereal's cd. Go to Ektoplazm's website and buy the Chi-A.D. 12" they printed but where unable to get any distribution for (thus meaning the only place you can get it is directly from them). When a label puts out an old school flavored release, buy it and then write the label thanking them for taking a chance on releasing it. The more positive feedback they hear from people wanting to hear this stuff, the better. Anyways, all this thinking has gotten me rather depressed so I'm gonna go shut up and listen to some Hallucinogen or something... = ( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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