Starkraver Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 And also, I've heard that Bandcamp eats a good amount of share too. Recently Ishq stopped selling on Bandcamp for the same reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkraver Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Don't worry, Zion604 was always doing it like that - don't know why. Also, recently they hired Arabesque to distribute their CDs, so it will be available in Psyshop.com, etc. (http://www.psyshop.com/shop/CDs/zio/zio1cd012.html) Still, I love Bandcamp and imagine labels are getting bigger profit share (compard to Psyshop, etc), so I purchased my copy there :-) Yeah I realised that they made me buy Robotized and ReMind as only copy of each was left and now there are so many! good strategy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Eye Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I've always taken the "items left" counter on Bandcamp with a grain of salt. And, ordered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antic604 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 And also, I've heard that Bandcamp eats a good amount of share too. Recently Ishq stopped selling on Bandcamp for the same reason. Well, they need to pay for site maintenance & bandwidth, so I can imagine they charge something obviously. I however don't think Zion604 has their own webshop (like Suntrip or Hado have), so I figured it's the best way to support them. Would love to get some clarity on who charges what, although I suspect it varies by label, print size, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkraver Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I've always taken the "items left" counter on Bandcamp with a grain of salt. And, ordered ya, lesson learned. But few labels like Eilean really keep the exact numbers. But definitely not Zion604 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richpa Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 And also, I've heard that Bandcamp eats a good amount of share too. Recently Ishq stopped selling on Bandcamp for the same reason. That is true. Based on the item price, you have to pay 10% of revenue without including tax, shipping, etc. Even tho I consider Bandcamp to be really good service and very reliable + their support is great. However, in long terms it's hard to have everything exclusivley on Bandcamp. I hope we will be able to make our own shop, until than Bandcamp and Suntrip shop will do the work. Regarding the digital it's 15% but it can be lowered to 10% if you get 5k in sales (based on their pricing list). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkraver Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 That is true. Based on the item price, you have to pay 10% of revenue without including tax, shipping, etc. Even tho I consider Bandcamp to be really good service and very reliable + their support is great. However, in long terms it's hard to have everything exclusivley on Bandcamp. I hope we will be able to make our own shop, until than Bandcamp and Suntrip shop will do the work. Regarding the digital it's 15% but it can be lowered to 10% if you get 5k in sales (based on their pricing list). Thanks for the info Rich.. I can see how tough it's for a small label. No wonder Virtual took out their physical stuff from Bandcamp. You have your site up so what's stopping you from selling from over there.? Traffic? I'm on off topic train today sorry Zion604 hope you don't mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antic604 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 That is true. Based on the item price, you have to pay 10% of revenue without including tax, shipping, etc. Even tho I consider Bandcamp to be really good service and very reliable + their support is great. However, in long terms it's hard to have everything exclusivley on Bandcamp. I hope we will be able to make our own shop, until than Bandcamp and Suntrip shop will do the work. Regarding the digital it's 15% but it can be lowered to 10% if you get 5k in sales (based on their pricing list). Thanks for the info! 10-15% isn't - relatively - that much? I think Apple charges 30% in appstore / iTunes? I'm pretty sure psyshop / beatspace take similar cut for their service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richpa Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Sorry for offtopic, but I will just reply to Stark and Antic, even tho moderator could split this discussion in other thread or something. Thanks for the info Rich.. I can see how tough it's for a small label. No wonder Virtual took out their physical stuff from Bandcamp. You have your site up so what's stopping you from selling from over there.? Traffic?I'm on off topic train today sorry Zion604 hope you don't mind You're welcome It's not tough to be honest, if you're doing this whole thing without aiming to have some noticable profit. Our idea from the early day is to offer some sort of physical releases in very limited number to people who wanna have that music on hardcopy and to be able to cover our costs. Thank God, so far it's good and all extra money has been invested in next release, and mastering, internet presence (hosting, SoundCloud, promotion, etc.). It's self-sustaining organisam who breeds thanks to the people who are supporting our idea and music. However, our own shop would make things much more flexible and we could save some extra money, but it's not a mandatory thing, especially now when we have pretty much tight digital release schedule and a lot of work on our website, social networks and events featuring musicians from our netlabel. Thanks for the info! 10-15% isn't - relatively - that much? I think Apple charges 30% in appstore / iTunes? I'm pretty sure psyshop / beatspace take similar cut for their service. It doesn't look that much if you compare it with other similar services, however, I'm not familair with any of mentioned so I'm sure other guys who are more seriously into this kind of buissness might give their feedback.Once again, sorry for off-topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraneFreeze Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 10-15% seems pretty reasonable compared to the cost and aggravation of re-inventing the wheel and running your own store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanosp81 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 What? Wait. What website? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephanZ604 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 28 Copies remaining, replies to the pre-sale copies.. wev'e dedicated only 50 for that. https://zion604records.bandcamp.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antic604 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 28 Copies remaining, replies to the pre-sale copies.. wev'e dedicated only 50 for that. https://zion604records.bandcamp.com So, when will the full download be available? I've purchased it and it's only ~1 minute samples so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZIon604 Posted February 15, 2016 Author Share Posted February 15, 2016 dear friendsbefore all - thank you very much for support and buying our music . its not an obious thing for us .i would like to clear few points :for the strategy of sale : there is no strategy we put 50 copies as a pre - sale copies in 8 euros . after this period of time, the price will be higher . thats the reason you see the copies left . those are the number of copies left in 8 euros for pre sale . for dowloading the music : we try to prevent the music to be available for pirate downloading . in our last album, the music became available in all the popular pirate sites - one week before the release date ! we made the music available for downloading in every album of us, but in our last album we suffered a real damage from that . after the release date , every customer who bought the album in a pre sale - will get a link in of the whole album in a WAV format .thank you again for your understand and support ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkraver Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Oh! Got it thanks for the explainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mental Explorer Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Yep, D-Dave just followed the same approach for Schlab 008:https://schlabbaduerst.bandcamp.com/album/schlab-008 Invasion of the Russian torrent mafia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkraver Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Yep, D-Dave just followed the same approach for Schlab 008: https://schlabbaduerst.bandcamp.com/album/schlab-008 Invasion of the Russian torrent mafia Don't blame the Russians for everything it's what I have not been told Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antic604 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Yeah, I know WHY you delay it but it doesn't make the wait easier Too bad that the Skizologic CD - I guess that was the last one? - was so heavily pirated, as it was one of the best albums released in this genre last year! At least I hope this gave you enough exposure that future releases of his and the lablel will be more succesful (financially, I mean). You fully deserve it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoebis Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Good luck with the release Zion brothers, you have our full support! And for the Europeans, it will be in our shop next week Thanks for the info! 10-15% isn't - relatively - that much? I think Apple charges 30% in appstore / iTunes? I'm pretty sure psyshop / beatspace take similar cut for their service. Bandcamp takes 15% + you pay some extra % on your paypal payment... so lets say 18%, and then, in Belgium, you pay 21% tax over this amount... So on a cd of 10€, so in the end you get 6.5€ for a sold cd of 10€... Just to give some insight... Probably the same with other labels, although I am not sure about those 21% in other countries... For Suntrip it is VITAL to buy in the Suntrip shop, so we get at least 8€ out of each sold cd... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHorse Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 here's the sample video from a youtube source for those who dont use facebook Samples sounding promising: a CD with a big diversity: that's what I really like Good luck zion 604 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antic604 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 For those of you who purchased it over at bandcamp, it's up for download! Can't wait to take it for a spin while jogging in the evening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZIon604 Posted March 1, 2016 Author Share Posted March 1, 2016 Dear Buddies,a little short message to you all, the Acid Disco compilation is now officially OUT !and that means:1. that you can now buy it in the digital method - full length tracks for immediate download in any format you wish 2. all of you that bought and pre-ordered the CD , can now download the files and if the option is now working you're welcome to send us a private message to 604zion@gmail.com andwe will send you the files. 3. have crazy fun with it https://zion604records.bandcamp.com/We preserve 604 music ! With big respect, Zion 604 family . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanosp81 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 It's here, my precious 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antic604 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 It's here, my precious Mine still isn't but I'm sure it gets here any day now The only "bad" thing I can say about the V/A is that different artists start to sound too much alike, just like Nano, Bom Shanka or Wildthings artists are - seems they share the sound presets, samples, mastering templates between eachother. But the music is sublime 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ake Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Yes, just like that. This really is a proper way of doing modern goa trance. Check yo self (Cube) , leave some space inside the music for active human brains, stay away from overproducing your tracks. Some tracks almost sound too minimalistic on this VA at certain points but just almost. Excellent music, keep em coming Zion604. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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