Penzoline Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 He messaged me and apparently he had issues with creating a new account on the board so I'm looking into that. In the meantime he wanted me to post this reply on his behalf. about critisim i do accept critisim from a person that got his facts straight or know what he his actually talking about included technical, this Antic604 is claiming that my beloved former partner Pete Martin is the driving force behind UX, well got news for him then that's b.s, probably based on the fact that Pete made an album (Unstable) that i helped to mix and finish (uncredited of course) as he needed badly the money to pay his flat , it uses all of the UX sounds , templates and my kits meanwhile i wasnt with E;O;N or any other project trying to do repeat myself so the proof is when i was out London in 98 living in Finland Pete moved on into tech house with Cass and then Electro House with Tim Healey, second he is claiming the new songs are trying to imitate the old ones well got news there also there is NO nnew songs just 19 years old songs (altered versions) played live with drums ,synths and samples , it is not entirely his fault if Anoebis was refering to UX is back using the Mushroom Mag punchline in order to sell the UX cd that by the way he doesnt like as he hates our sound , well we are not back yet the new Songs are not final mixed but soon to be ready , that's what Mushroom was refering to as they know the deal with Anjuna Recs, third complaining about UX being too industrial well also news then we have been Industrial Goa for 20 years one of the reason we signed with Dragonfly Recs because of the Killing Joke connection, finally i would agree this record for me is a bootleg as i was stupid enough to fall in the trap and sell out to this joke of a label call Anjuna Records that as been lying to many people on many level just after 9 months after relesaed date (it takes 2 weeks to press) finally pressed that cd when saw we were getting attention it is very convenient, so yes that cd is a mistake but then again if people do not like our music we don't force them to buy it, as we don't get any profit on that,not to remind you that i was responsable ( in partnership with Kissthesound) for the Free downloadable "Ultimate Experience Reloaded" 14 tracks remastered and unreleased bonuses on Ektoplazm that doesnt come cheap,but hey all you get for that is stabbed in the back so yes thank you people long live the psy movement... Kris on UX behalf xxx 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanosp81 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 A lot of negative feelings there, I hope he has his reasons because if not... wtf? I didn't receive Antics comments/review as complaining per se, just as an opinion, I think Kris should do as well. And even if he is complaining Kris, you shouldn't care, he is just one person (sorry Antic ). Kris, if you think about it and forget all the $h!t that happened between you and Anjuna (whatever those are) people BOUGHT your cd, and many more are still trying to get hold of it. So overall a successful release dare I say? (I don't mean financially) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkraver Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Ok, please elaborate where you see "hatred towards this release"? If anything, people - myself included - were first worried about it not coming out despite Anjuna's promises, then discussing whether it was released and distributed lawfully (i.e. whether or not the artists gave permission & got paid) and my last comment is something I'd put in my review: that it wasn't a perfect release due to the reasons I stated... OK. Please read the quote pasted by Penzoline. I felt like the artist has a bit of hate towards this. Or may be my comprehending analysing and etc etc skills are just shit so idk. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuser Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Username Ultimate Experience or Xperience (I assume it's their account) was online few days ago, but his membership was in pending status.Yes a few days ago I actually noticed 2 accounts, Ultimate experience and another one Kris Sylven. I went out to buy some popcorns but looks like the accounts have been deleted.On a serious note, I have listened only the tracks available on youtube and I am seduced by both Waking up to chaos, and Crossworld. UX was never too much my cup of tea but I recognize the talent and their style grew on me a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mental Explorer Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Yes a few days ago I actually noticed 2 accounts, Ultimate experience and another one Kris Sylven. I went out to buy some popcorns but looks like the accounts have been deleted. This thread indeed deserves a lot of popcorn. Btw.: Waking up to chaos + Crossworld are also my favs here. Great stuff + as I am also a big industrial/EBM fan any darker goatrance heading to this direction is highly appreciated by me + Killing Joke rules!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoebis Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 Funny, I never said I hate UX sound... Please copy me that? What the hell are you saying... I just said it is not really my style and that it is too noisy sometimes... I prefer Syb Unity Nettwerk much more... More goa-ish. I have all your vinyls, cds & albums... Weird to read then I hate your sound... Would be thrown away money, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolmot Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Funny, I never said I hate UX sound... Please copy me that? What the hell are you saying... I just said it is not really my style and that it is too noisy sometimes... Well, true...the word "hate" was never used. (Let's dig up a few thoroughly negative threads, shall we? ) https://www.psynews.org/forums/topic/67117-classic-tracks-that-you-think-are-nothing-special/?do=findComment&comment=1023543 https://www.psynews.org/forums/topic/68678-your-unpopular-opinion/page-3?do=findComment&comment=1037824 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoebis Posted March 3, 2016 Author Share Posted March 3, 2016 In both "examples" I am repeating it is too noisy/rough for my taste, and I even make clear Syb Unity Nettwerk is more my style... So what is wrong with that? There is a big difference between "not my style/don't like X or Y" and "hate". But for drama queens words are always abused and used in another context I guess... So I stand clearly: I don't hate it at all, it is just not my style... Also, I had a pm that sais I should keep that opinion for myself, I know nothing because I am only in the scene since 98, etc etc... This is a forum. Everyone is entitled to have an opinion and I strongly wish everyone can do this without public pressure. Or you guys want only forums that like everything? You make friends with asslicking, but I prefer to be honest and to stay loyal on my true taste. Well, true...the word "hate" was never used. (Let's dig up a few thoroughly negative threads, shall we? ) https://www.psynews.org/forums/topic/67117-classic-tracks-that-you-think-are-nothing-special/?do=findComment&comment=1023543 https://www.psynews.org/forums/topic/68678-your-unpopular-opinion/page-3?do=findComment&comment=1037824 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanosp81 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I mean seriously, there must be some kind of voodoo with the UX name in general it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychedelic Alien Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Well, now even artists can't take criticizm anymore... What's next? I dont like UX either, come on guys, crucify me! haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antic604 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Just wow at this thread! Next I'm gonna learn I'm a racist because I don't enjoy Chinese food, that I'm Islamophobe for driving a hybrid and a homophobe because I don't watch gay porn... The world is not just black & white / good & bad / love & hate. @Kris, if you read this - my comment was strictly from *my own* perspective: - the non-album tracks are new *for me* because I never heard them - still, it doesn't change my opinion there, - Pete Martin was *for me* the driving force behind the components of UX sound I liked - how do I know? I love Slide's "Unstable" and "Waking Up To Chaos" on this very release, while I wasn't very fond of the style of EON Project's "Brain Filter", guess what is the difference there?, - I'm dissapointed that "Master of The Universe" is still not fixed after all those years - it's one of the best UX tunes (musically), but one needs to increase volume by 50-70% to hear it at the same level as the rest; *I* usually listen to albums / compilations in their entirety and therefore it bothers *me*, while it could have been easily addressed in mastering process, Maybe I could have been clearer in my original comment, but then it should be obvious for everyone that I wasn't attempting to convey some universal truth or global sentiment towards this particular release, that it was just *my* opinion based on *my* experience, expectations and - limited, as it turns out - knowledge. I actually feel sorry for anyone who reads Internet in any other way, but maybe I'm just too old and grumpy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antic604 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Kris? I wonder what happened that there's so much of hatred towards this release. The rest will DIE with this FORSAKEN release. @Everyone You're either schizophrenic, fail to communicate sarcasm or simply can't comprehend the reality... It's clearly you who is seeking "drama" and actively fueling it by such comments. Are you living in some sort of bubble, when a calm and reasonable discussion becomes so discomforting for you that everyone need to "chill out & relax"? If you have nothing to contribute to the discussion then don't & eat your popcorn - I couldn't care less, really 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penzoline Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Alright the bullshit stops here or this topic gets locked too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanosp81 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Alright the bullshit stops here or this topic gets locked too. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkraver Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 You're either schizophrenic, fail to communicate sarcasm or simply can't comprehend the reality... It's clearly you who is seeking "drama" and actively fueling it by such comments. Are you living in some sort of bubble, when a calm and reasonable discussion becomes so discomforting for you that everyone need to "chill out & relax"? If you have nothing to contribute to the discussion then don't & eat your popcorn - I couldn't care less, really I was actually never talking to you, you beat me to the reply to psychedelic alien. Anyways sorry. You asked me where was the hatred - I pointed out. That's it. In that message too I was actually talking to Penzoline. After he posted the quote. I just said I wonder what happened that there's so much hatred towards this release. Hatred from -- artist himself. You thought I was pointing at you , so I had point towards where I saw the hatred. Yes, I don't have anything to contribute. I'll shut up now. All the drama seeking comments are edited. Now read them. Enjoy your discussion here. Pleasant evening to all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richpa Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Alright the bullshit stops here or this topic gets locked too. *Radi mode on* But why so little activity??!?? *Radi mode off* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GS Concept Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I have negative assotiations with this stuff, because i start listen it when my favorite football club have really epic fail yesterday So i was see that Swansey fuck Arsenal when play track Millennium Generation (Live Remix) :D Its was be very important match... But track very nice Its Sansara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkraver Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Just wow at this thread! Next I'm gonna learn I'm a racist because I don't enjoy Chinese food, that I'm Islamophobe for driving a hybrid and a homophobe because I don't watch gay porn... The world is not just black & white / good & bad / love & hate. ++ Plot thickens Very relaxed and Non dramatic indeed. You're either schizophrenic, fail to communicate sarcasm or simply can't comprehend the reality... It's clearly you who is seeking "drama" and actively fueling it by such comments. Are you living in some sort of bubble, when a calm and reasonable discussion becomes so discomforting for you that everyone need to "chill out & relax"? I was never talking to you. If I was I would have quoted you. removed--Sorry , that was mean. And no, I'm not buttering you, keep your CD's. I have no problem. If you have nothing to contribute to the discussion then don't & eat your popcorn - I couldn't care less, really And yes I dont have anything at all to add to this thread or anything in general, so what? Just tell me who are you to tell me to what to do and what not to do.? Are you a MOD? Am I posting fuck your god and whatnot shit over here? NO! Go and back and read from 1st page, I have added as much garbage as you have. Difference is I've not assumed things like you did. @Tal - Page 4 is it. I feel sorry for you. Nothing but sorry. -- I personally think you mistook it -- I feel sorry that you took it personally, clearly Sunborn was pointing to Anjuna Records. Anyways, it is just my understanding. And apparently I'm too dumb and deranged to even come to understand anything. So you can just forget my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U.F.Orb Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 TBH This topic gave me such a big dejavu from my isratrance days. On one hand, i like to stay up to date on new releases and have an open channel with lables and artists that produce the music i like, and on the other hand, it's threads like this That makes me want to close this link bitween Artists and lable owners (the whole anjuna fiasco). Realy, i can enjoy the music better (call me selfish) but at this point, after i was burned once from Anjuna records after ordering almost the complete discography of the lable, and pre ordering the UX album (in freaking JUNE15') At this point, i don't care if the artist is not happy with the outcome. This topic and this fiasco is too much for me to handle. This topic should have been closed like 6 days ago (the moment someone {who i cant believe is 'in' my fav lable} made a 'JOKE' about israelis and none of you or the mods here, did anything about it). My english and grammer sucks, that's probably the reason i post very little in this forum over the years. So, personally i havent decided if i'll hang around here more to get news about releases and try and interact with some realy nice people or choose to live in a box and just enjoy the music as it is, no dramas and no fiascos. But it saddens me this topic got so toxic and offended me (personally) and none of the mods did anything about it And just let this one get to where it is now. Off topic ? who knows anymore. P.S I Got the cd, i love it, tho i'll enjoy it even more as soon as i'll forget this topic ever exicsted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkraver Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Realy, i can enjoy the music better (call me selfish) but at this point, after i was burned once from Anjuna records after ordering almost the complete discography of the lable, and pre ordering the UX album (in freaking JUNE15') This topic and this fiasco is too much for me to handle. This topic should have been closed like 6 days ago (the moment someone {who i cant believe is 'in' my fav lable} made a 'JOKE' about israelis and none of you or the mods here, did anything about it). I have to reply to this. *First, fiasco drama or whatever it is, wouldnt exist if the Anjuna hadnt done what it did. *Anjuna - Based in Israel. Owner - From Israel. *what did Anjuna do? -- Let me quote you. Realy, i can enjoy the music better (call me selfish) but at this point, after i was burned once from Anjuna records after ordering almost the complete discography of the lable, and pre ordering the UX album (in freaking JUNE15') After this you expect people to welcome a release from Anjuna with red carpet and rose petals.? Also, there are many people just like you, who got burnt. This topic should have been closed like 6 days ago (the moment someone {who i cant believe is 'in' my fav lable} made a 'JOKE' about israelis and none of you or the mods here, did anything about it). By now, it should be clear enough why he made that joke. Let me tell you something about this "someone" (Dj Sunborn) He is a Greek. I got cheated (120Euros) by a greek last year. I have said many times, fucking cheats,whatnot the moment Greece or anyone from Greece came to my mind. Its just obvious. You know what he did? He posted the whole event on his facebook and tagged all the greeks. He COULD have said , I am humiliated and hurt by this Starkraver's comments but NO, he felt ashamed that one of his fellow countrymen has done such a bad thing that I am hating all the greeks. He tagged everyone in the greece Goa/psy scene and also tagged the person who cheated me and spread the information so that no one else will be cheated again. He expressed how sad it is for greek community that a fellow greek is cheating everyone. All this when I didnt even know him. Lets come to Anjuna from Israel. If you go and check his wall or the discussions at Unreleased goa project. His has been spreading the NEWS and creating awareness about Anjuna Records ripping people off. All so that no one else like YOU and ME are cheated by fucking cheats. So I am pretty sure he is pointing towards the cheats who cheated people of their money and are now pricing their products at a high price. You are also from Israel and I hope you did what Sunborn did when you got cheated so as to help others. I dont see why this topic needed to be blocked 6 days ago just because you couldnt take a VALID joke or even a direct comment. My english and grammer sucks, that's probably the reason i post very little in this forum over the years. So, personally i havent decided if i'll hang around here more to get news about releases and try and interact with some realy nice people or choose to live in a box and just enjoy the music as it is, no dramas and no fiascos. But it saddens me this topic got so toxic and offended me (personally) and none of the mods did anything about it And just let this one get to where it is now. Off topic ? who knows anymore. P.S I Got the cd, i love it, tho i'll enjoy it even more as soon as i'll forget this topic ever exicsted. My English is Pathetic(ask Antic604, he'll tell you how pathetic it is) So what? There might be confusions and few troubles. People might mistake you but that shouldnt stop you from expressing yourself (that is how you learn a language, by using it) Quitting Psynews over a joke and misunderstanding would be too much. Please dont do that Tal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blair Thaumic Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 You're either schizophrenic, fail to communicate sarcasm or simply can't comprehend the reality... It's clearly you who is seeking "drama" and actively fueling it by such comments. Are you living in some sort of bubble, when a calm and reasonable discussion becomes so discomforting for you that everyone need to "chill out & relax"? If you have nothing to contribute to the discussion then don't & eat your popcorn - I couldn't care less, really Read more carefully. Starkraver was quoting some "dramatic" comments from Kris. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkraver Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Before you go accusing me deleting post etc etc: there was a post by me with the above gif: dude just chill out and relax .. If not, Michael Jackson pop corn eating one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StratosOZ Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Just wow at this thread! Next I'm gonna learn I'm a racist because I don't enjoy Chinese food, that I'm Islamophobe for driving a hybrid and a homophobe because I don't watch gay porn... Lol, this is my quote of the year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antic604 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 @Everyone, sorry for overreacting - I simply have hard time agreeing with mentality that if someone doesn't explicitly like something or tries to constructively criticize something then they're immediately tagged as "hater". It doesn't help that current social climate - political correctness, disproportionate attention and voice given to vocal minorities - encourages such behaviors, by looking for issues where there are none. Internet (and using foreign language) make it difficult to convey the deeper meanings, nuances or intentions, so I'll stop. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkraver Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Just to clear things, I never accused you of being a hater. In fact I always feel constructive criticism should be present and I was indeed sad when you quit psynews last time. Hope we are clear on this. ----------- Incoming ........... Insane Goa - weekend Late night goa sessions by our very own, Mergi. wohooo.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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