XoArK Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 I think recently Darkpsy isn't dark, but just fast. Fast really isn't dark. I need true Dark psytrance, that isn't fast. (Yes, I know Xenomorph) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recursion loop Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Not much into darkpsy, but what I've heard of it doesn't sound very dark. Rather they try to create "inhuman/alien" atmosphere by combining unnaturally fast bpms with strange atonal noises. If you want something really dark, try forest or twillight psy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padmapani Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 the delta and x-dream were darker than any darkpsy ever was. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imba Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 The darkest track i heard lately isnt dark psy at all: Â Â And to me forest these days is much darker than dark psy, example: Â Â Â And more groovy and danceable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the goa constrictor Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Agreed 100% And what is commonly referred to as "Forest" trance is NOT FUCKING FOREST music It's goddamn fast trance  Rip Van Hippy Outolintu Haltya  That's some true forest music   The misconception of what is Forest annoys me greatly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanosp81 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 the delta and x-dream were darker than any darkpsy ever was. True DAT Dark Soho as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanosp81 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 The darkest track i heard lately isnt dark psy at all: Â Â And to me forest these days is much darker than dark psy, example: Â Â Â And more groovy and danceable Just noise to me (Sorry I had to say it) Don' start a war now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Starkraver Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I bet we can find multiple threads on this topic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psytones Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 And what is commonly referred to as "Forest" trance is NOT FUCKING FOREST music Excuse me kind sir, this is not FOREST? Â https://the-cure.bandcamp.com/track/01-inzect-aspects-of-nature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imba Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Just noise to me (Sorry I had to say it) Don' start a war now  They have creepy atmosphere, that enough forest for me. You should hear such tracks live, whole new dimension. Visit Lost Theory if you can or MODEM, top notch forest and dark music Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormion Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I think recently Darkpsy isn't dark, but just fast. Fast really isn't dark. I need true Dark psytrance, that isn't fast. (Yes, I know Xenomorph) Â https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HutRkV_REXQ Â Â Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astralprojection Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 dunno if its been said, but what you want is psycho-psy. Â its a subgenre (called differently all over, coming from russia mostly) its 160+ bpm and MADE to fuck with your mind and if ur on acid, to challenge the very boundaries of what holds your psyche together. Â example of a "kind" psychopsy artist is ofc Psykovsky. But thats like watching a sunset, to what there is. Its like if you took 90s Gabber raves - mixed with _INTENTION_ of fucking your head up, but not as fast as gabber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novoice Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Hmm, pure darkness is Silent Horror with his great album "Séance"... The link above my post has one track of this album: "Higher Access", YES!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwang Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 The darkest track i heard lately isnt dark psy at all: How is this not dark psy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redo Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imba Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 How is this not dark psy? Â This is mix of forest and night time/twilight psy imo if you follow todays categorizations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike.54 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I think recently Darkpsy isn't dark, but just fast. Fast really isn't dark. I need true Dark psytrance, that isn't fast.(Yes, I know Xenomorph) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormion Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 It's true that many darkpsy ain't that dark, but it's music more suitable for night time. The lack of melodies, the monotonous bass, the overall more sinister sound is something most associated with night and darkness than morning and light. Another thing is that darkpsy is called that cause when it was created it was (and still is) darker than most Goa and Psy. Hence darkpsy. Â Another thing is that there's not one definiton of darkness. There's spacey darkness, evil darkness, spooky darkness, mechanical darkness etc. For example Darshan, The Delta, Kindzadza, BOTFB, Xenomorph, Necropsycho and Sentient are all dark psy, but its one is a different kind of darkness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recursion loop Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 What I've heard from Kindzadza doesn't sound dark or sinister, rather its sounds strange - futuristic, alien maybe(but still captivating). Btw some of his tracks are really melodious but again, some strange kind of melodies. Also there is Kashyyyk which is anything but dark (but it is really hard to find words to describe the mood of Kashyyyk's music). Â Overall, the genral aethetics of darkpsy is like "music for/by aliens" as if they were trying to figure out what music created by non-human intelligentt creatures may sound like. Hence there is rthytm (but faster than commonly considered danceable), there is some inner logic in the sounds but usually no melodies (at least nothing like "a melody" in the usual sence). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psytones Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Dont forget about Megalopsy ~ his live-set on LOST 2015 was just ,,stupidly" dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XoArK Posted April 21, 2016 Author Share Posted April 21, 2016 Well I might be biased but yes I agree with you. Before I discovered psytrance I mainly listened to heavy metal (still do), and I love death metal and black metal because it's evil and dark. Then I discovered dark psy/forest/twilight and it's a complete joke compared to death metal. Yes there's always exceptions and a couple of good artists here and there but 99% of darkpsy sounds like someone with ADHD put a shitload of FX and called it a song. I understand darkpsy isn't supposed to be melodic, but where's the fucking groove/riffs/anything musical???? I really tried to like dark psytrance, because I LOVE dark music....but it's just noise to me. I must have listened to Derango like 5-10 times and I still think it's just noise.  /endrant  Anyways I will recommend Ka-Sol, it's forest trance and I love him because a lot of his songs are insanely groovy...check out Volap for example. Also Fragletrollet - Playground of spirit album is great. I love Ka-Sol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwang Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Overall, the genral aethetics of darkpsy is like "music for/by aliens" as if they were trying to figure out what music created by non-human intelligentt creatures may sound like. This. IMO it's an annoyingly persistent misconception that darkpsy is supposed to sound evil or scary - to me, and I assume to most other people who like it, it sounds psychedelic, abstract, alien, sci-fi, but not in the slightest bit scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XoArK Posted April 21, 2016 Author Share Posted April 21, 2016 This. IMO it's an annoyingly persistent misconception that darkpsy is supposed to sound evil or scary - to me, and I assume to most other people who like it, it sounds psychedelic, abstract, alien, sci-fi, but not in the slightest bit scary.No offense, but why is it called Darkpsy then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormion Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 No offense, but why is it called Darkpsy then? Another thing is that darkpsy is called that cause when it was created it was (and still is) darker than most Goa and Psy. Hence darkpsy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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