Starkraver Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celaripo Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 i bet if you asked 70 yo grandpas jazz fans what they think of goa trance they would tell you it sounds like stupid music for idiots lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abasio Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 You could probably get that response from a lot of people. A lot of music elitists thing their genre is the only "intelligent" one and all others are stupid music for stupid people. Honestly I think that 90% of any genre is crap and all genres have good, intelligent stuff. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunarDawn Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Honestly I think that 90% of any genre is crap and all genres have good, intelligent stuff.100% percent correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recursion loop Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Honestly I think that 90% of any genre is crap and all genres have good, intelligent stuff. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon%27s_law 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkraver Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 gotta love these laws 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abasio Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Is there a law for how long a discussion goes before someone brings up one of these laws? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolmot Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Cole's law? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkraver Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abasio Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Cole's law? Damn you! I clicked it and everything. Here have a link to awesomeness for your trouble 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the goa constrictor Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 this thread has taken a wonderful turn towards awesome 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psylophyta Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 i bet if you asked 70 yo grandpas jazz fans what they think of goa trance they would tell you it sounds like stupid music for idiots lol Jazz and classical - music that requires professional musicians. All the rest is essentially folk music, i.e. music that embraces amateurism (in Russian, samodeyatel'nost'). Sure, you can have real pros, who spend hours on end to hone their skills, but that is not a necessary condition. A kid with a bunch of samples can release an album which will be on the surface indistinguishable from real pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psylophyta Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 So, I think, it all comes down to playing right music at the right time. And the spread of darkpsy for almost a decade surely didn't add to the popularity of goa. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunarDawn Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Jazz and classical - music that requires professional musicians. All the rest is essentially folk music, i.e. music that embraces amateurism (in Russian, samodeyatel'nost'). Sure, you can have real pros, who spend hours on end to hone their skills, but that is not a necessary condition. A kid with a bunch of samples can release an album which will be on the surface indistinguishable from real pro. I will not agree with this one. I finished music school and learnt classical stuff. Professional musician is anyone that devotes music as his first profession that makes living of it. Period. I know people who have no music school yet play much better than some skillful schooled musicians. And they don´t usually play jazz or classical but they kick the shit out of it if they wanna. For example DJ Stevo, he is the most famous Croatian goatrance dj, and also a producer, but he is professional piano teacher who has many years of serious music academy behind his back. Anyway, I´m not sure if I got your point right. I can play both jazz and classical music but i don´t - as it doesn´t attract me that much. I don´t think it makes me less musician or professional because of it. Like we said earlier - 90% of anything is crap that 10% is in most cases professional, non-regarding to genre you find it in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richpa Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 To be honest I consider some music genres (for example jazz, progressive rock or blues) to have a lot more musicianship than most of electronica, especially psytrance. I don't mean to offend anyone or say they're not musicians, but the experience seeing someone playing live and someone pressing buttons live is quite different, at least in my case. Last week I saw really great jazz performance by Borna Sercar and Elvis Penava, just guitar and drums (and 25 empty bottles), you know it was amazing to see someone creating so vivid melodies and sounds hitting empty bottles. I know it might sound silly but there was more musicianship than you will see on some average psytrance event, well if there isn't any Ozric Tantacles playing One of the reasons why projects / bands such as Juno Reactor, Shulman, Shopongle, Kurbeats got so much respect is the fact they all decided to incorporate the vast number of real instruments being played live at their gigs, it gives totally new perspective on their production and it got bigger value as a live-show. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnarchy Posted June 1, 2016 Author Share Posted June 1, 2016 Well I guess I realized that I dont really want for the scene to be any bigger than it is. Its just right. Small and very warm. I love how whenever I write a letter to an artist they always have time to reply and it actually feels like I made a possitive impact on them with my compliments and critique. Especially here on psynews. i guess that wouldnt be the case if the scene was a lot bigger. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanosp81 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abasio Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 There's plusses and minuses to everything. If it was a bigger scene then you'd likely have more people you know IRL that are into it, but on the flip side you'd be a cunt....oh okay you wouldn't be a cunt but you would have more shit to either sift through to find the good stuff or to start liking because you're a 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trancedigital Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 And the spread of darkpsy for almost a decade surely didn't add to the popularity of goa.This. And I don't like darkpsy. I guess I must be half-stupid? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the goa constrictor Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 lmfao yes. the decade of dark psy in the USA definitely pushed psytrance further out into the fringes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XoArK Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 I remember when I looked down through the comments of a psytrance track, one person complained when they first tried to get into psytrance, he was put off by the fact that most of it was "commercial bullshit". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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