SixZeroFou4 Posted July 28, 2016 Author Share Posted July 28, 2016 Why did you suddenly join psynews? I see you are new since June 2016 This isn't a 'secret' double account to search for compliments? Oh no my brother. I don't search for anything but oxygen. Why not join psy news? We all have the same interest! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixZeroFou4 Posted July 28, 2016 Author Share Posted July 28, 2016 Raising hand too ! 39 years old, French, into the scene for 21 years, on psynews for 16 years, and naturally severely grumpy. Besides Goatrance, I think there has been a bunch of good FullOn (eg Xerox, XI) and Progressive (Symphonix, Suntree, Ovnimoon...check IONO records) albums in the past years. Ambient too (Ultimae records). Though I believe the level has decreased in the past 3 years due (imo) to more time spend by artists on facebook and less in front of their machines... Yeah. It's tough to stay motivated when you don't have to worry about buying that next piece of gear. With everything virtual, you have it all.. There's no mystery or anticipation. Nothing to earn. Back then you had to be good enough to get the money to buy the next synth which could take a while, then the new toy would re spark the interest. Now software has spoiled us all. Yes it sounded grumpy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopie Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Now software has spoiled us all.Hah. Not really I suppose? What differentiates neogoa and old school goa, in my books, is the fact that back then, when you got all that analog gear, there was usually a lot of knob twisting at play. These days producers, not only that they overpack their tracks _the wrong way_ (there's a bad ratio between high and low frequencies), don't seem to know the skill of manipulating that "knob twist" in their tracks; the synth timbre is constantly the same. So, even if you'd change the melody and all, even then it's a bit tiresome to hear... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recursion loop Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Oopie, do you use hard or soft synths mostly? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixZeroFou4 Posted July 28, 2016 Author Share Posted July 28, 2016 Hah. Not really I suppose? What differentiates neogoa and old school goa, in my books, is the fact that back then, when you got all that analog gear, there was usually a lot of knob twisting at play. These days producers, not only that they overpack their tracks _the wrong way_ (there's a bad ratio between high and low frequencies), don't seem to know the skill of manipulating that "knob twist" in their tracks; the synth timbre is constantly the same. So, even if you'd change the melody and all, even then it's a bit tiresome to hear... Do you live in my brain? Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oopie Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Oopie, do you use hard or soft synths mostly?Hey RL, it's 100% soft synths in my case. (I've always had what you'd call eh... "student's zero budget studio".) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixZeroFou4 Posted July 28, 2016 Author Share Posted July 28, 2016 Hah. Not really I suppose? What differentiates neogoa and old school goa, in my books, is the fact that back then, when you got all that analog gear, there was usually a lot of knob twisting at play. These days producers, not only that they overpack their tracks _the wrong way_ (there's a bad ratio between high and low frequencies), don't seem to know the skill of manipulating that "knob twist" in their tracks; the synth timbre is constantly the same. So, even if you'd change the melody and all, even then it's a bit tiresome to hear... Also wanted to mention the fact that if you are a pirate or have a friend who just gives you a jackpot of software it's instant gratification so the boredom curve approaches much sooner. If there's a piece of gear you are working towards it extends the boredom and acts as an energizer when you get that piece 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antic604 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Have you seen my reviews or rants about mastering quality/issues of certain releases? Yeah, I'm a classic example of grumpy old goa trancer: listening to psychedelic goa trance since 1996, on psynews.org since early 2000 (under "antic", without the "604") although I'd say my collection is pretty evenly distributed over time: out of ~800 CDs 250 is from 2000 or earlier. My grumpiness shows in me being picky with regards to quality of the music and my specific expectations - I know a lot about music production, I listen to different music styles and I know what I like. I think there's always interesting stuff being released, because no artist / label on purpose releases bad stuff - some of it just isn't my cup of tea, but I'm not losing my time and nerves criticising it. It's more difficult than ever now to find good stuff, because so much gets released both paid and free and I really pity the people stuck in expectations that old golden days of '96-98 goa will return, missing on all the great releases that are there... So yeah, I'm mostly grumpy about big part of the scene (or maybe it's specific to psynews.org?) being grumpy and stubbornly stuck in the past 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixZeroFou4 Posted July 28, 2016 Author Share Posted July 28, 2016 Have you seen my reviews or rants about mastering quality/issues of certain releases? Yeah, I'm a classic example of grumpy old goa trancer: listening to psychedelic goa trance since 1996, on psynews.org since early 2000 (under "antic", without the "604") although I'd say my collection is pretty evenly distributed over time: out of ~800 CDs 250 is from 2000 or earlier. My grumpiness shows in me being picky with regards to quality of the music and my specific expectations - I know a lot about music production, I listen to different music styles and I know what I like. I think there's always interesting stuff being released, because no artist / label on purpose releases bad stuff - some of it just isn't my cup of tea, but I'm not losing my time and nerves criticising it. It's more difficult than ever now to find good stuff, because so much gets released both paid and free and I really pity the people stuck in expectations that old golden days of '96-98 goa will return, missing on all the great releases that are there... So yeah, I'm mostly grumpy about big part of the scene (or maybe it's specific to psynews.org?) being grumpy and stubbornly stuck in the past This is perfect. OK so where should I start for goa released as of lately.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkraver Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 This is perfect. OK so where should I start for goa released as of lately.. I'm waiting for answers too. If by Goa you mean whole psychedelic trance then there are many awesome releases, but if you mean "Goa" Goa, hmmm, tricky. One recommendation from my side, VA - World Beyond well take 2 more Artha - Influencing Dreams -- Not sure if this counts as "goa" but its awesome. Artifac303 - Back to Space. Best would be to checkout the "Best Of" threads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antic604 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 This is perfect. OK so where should I start for goa released as of lately.. Yes, please be more specific - there's not a lot of great goa trance, but plenty of great psyvhedelic trance music 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkraver Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Go ahead and list 5 Antic. It would be interesting to see which ones' you would choose. Here's my 5 , just to get you started: Frageltrollet - Playground Of the Spirit Kiriyama - Reach Escape Velocity Qiujan - Ritual To The Light Sab Kuch Milegator - Klaus Aikain Taa Nervasystem - Brainradio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallenaut Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 I can advice to you Imba - Impossible Astronaut. Extraordinary Goa trance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padmapani Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 So , young and grumpy goa trancer then.? exactly don't you dare call 30 years anything else than young So yeah, I'm mostly grumpy about big part of the scene (or maybe it's specific to psynews.org?) being grumpy and stubbornly stuck in the past that's only psynews. the scene isn't grumpy at all. as long as they can get fucked up and have a good time they don't care if psykovsky, neelix or alien jesus is playing. anything that sounds remotely like "doof-da-da-da-doof-da-..." is fine provided that kick and bass are dominant and there aren't too many weird melodies. ______ top 5 goa trance from last 2 years or so not counting re-releases or previously unreleased oldschool? off the top of my head i'd say (in no particular order) : e-mantra - nemesis lunar dawn - kolovrat oforia - read more mindsphere - presence va - the mystery of crystal worlds but since you like oldschool more than newschool i guess you would prefer stuff like: the world beyond denshi-danshi - fluid dymanics deviant electronics - the green room 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkraver Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 huh! I thought both DD & Green Room are albums of previously unreleased material. I wanted to post lunar dawn - kolovrat oforia - read more but was sure someone would definitely recommend them. Just for diversity sake why not some funky foresty suomi fullonish hyperpsychedelia I thought. If 30 is young, then I'm still in my teens 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padmapani Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 huh! I thought both DD & Green Room are albums of previously unreleased material. I wanted to post lunar dawn - kolovrat oforia - read more but was sure someone would definitely recommend them. Just for diversity sake why not some funky foresty suomi fullonish hyperpsychedelia I thought. If 30 is young, then I'm still in my teens i thought denshi-danshi was only a few old tracks together with new ones and deviant was new stuff? but you may be right. anyway, it is previously unheard music and sounds like more like oldschool than the rest you may still be in your teens, who am i to judge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitrinos Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Artha - Influencing Dreams -- Not sure if this counts as "goa" but its awesome. Ofc it's goa trance and yes it's awesome. Ok, you asked for it, now you'll probably get dozens of recommendations. I'd say: Artha - Influencing Dreams Crossing Mind - The Inner Shift Proxeeus - At The Mountains Of Madness Alienapia - Goapocalipsis Some great tracks on compilations here and there as well. There are not so many labels anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolgoa Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 i like goa but cant be bothered listening to most of it it just bores me hard to find something good and unique these days that will 'impress' and get you into it yea im major old grump lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin OOOD Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 "Are you a grumpy old goa trancer?" Why, yes. Yes, I am indeed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolmot Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 I could try denying it but I wouldn't fool anyone so better just admit it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolgoa Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Well... Yes, and no Only about a fourth of my collection could be considered "goa trance", and there may well be a 50/50 mix between pre and post 2000 music. Good goa trance is good, regardless of its age. There's horrible garbage made today, just as there was 20 years ago so nothing has really changed. And about 90% of anything is crap anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolgoa Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 raising both arms . im a fucking grump as fuck!!! LOOOOOOOOOL fuck all guys lol i reached 30 the ohm looooooooooooooooolllllll 3-0 loooooooooooooooool ohm namah shivaya yeeeeoo boom shankar yeee baba shit looooooooooool respect thumbs up be positive fuck all im sick of everything live laugh love peace out im gonna listen to mana source - samurai laterz guys i say one love like electric universe said thats all i gotta say bye 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychedelic chipmunk Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 I'd say yes. It's 2016 and I'm still blasting Koxbox Most of the new "goa" that is being released just doesn't work for me. There is this "nitzhogoa" or "nitzhonot" or whatever it's called: its plus side is the major role of Middle-Eastern, Oriental-esque melodies, but after a while, I get bored of it and go back to 90s goa: something that still manages to excite me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abasio Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 I'm old I'm grumpy I'm a goatrancer. But I'm not a old grumpy goatrancer. I've no complaints with the music. I think there's plenty of excellent stuff being made still, and any lulls don't remove the great music already in my collection. My only gripe is that music is too easy to make these days so every scene is flooded with mounds if shite. There's probably more good stuff released these days then there ever was in the golden age but I'll likely never hear it 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychedelic chipmunk Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 My only gripe is that music is too easy to make these days so every scene is flooded with mounds if shite. There's probably more good stuff released these days then there ever was in the golden age but I'll likely never hear it Yes! The amount of music released is just overwhelming, so what do we do? We read reviews and choose based on people's "general opinion" on any given album.. and something you might really like will just slip the net. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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