thanosp81 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Serious topic here people. Childhood immunisations. Where do you stand? I hear more and more people taking pride of how they haven't given any immunisations to their children. And since Psy culture is, well, alternative, I want to hear your opinions. And if you are against it what made you change (or make) your mind, based on what evidence, are you the least worried you made the wrong decision etc etc. Please also state whether you have children or not, it adds a bit of weight . And to give you a bit of background for me, I have an MSc in Molecular Biology and currently undertaking a PhD so I am pro-immunisation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Themaniac Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Always pro immunization. Doctor here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the goa constrictor Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Yup. Societal immunization is why we're able to eradicate diseases. Not everyone is able to get immunizations due to age or sickness, and they are protected because everyone else is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veracohr Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Anti-vaccine attitudes are stupid, plain and simple. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technosomy Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 while i understand why some vacinate the high levels of aluminium, all sorts of dna and what ever other stuff found in them is unnecessary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanosp81 Posted July 2, 2018 Author Share Posted July 2, 2018 On 7/1/2018 at 8:09 AM, Veracohr said: Anti-vaccine attitudes are stupid, plain and simple. Well, I wouldn't say stupid since they are based on a reasoning. However, whether that reasoning has any validity, that's what I would like to discuss 2 hours ago, technosomy said: while i understand why some vacinate the high levels of aluminium, all sorts of dna and what ever other stuff found in them is unnecessary Not just some, the vast majority, at least in developed countries. That stuff have a clearly defined reason for being there. I take it you are not immunised then? Am I correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recursion loop Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Imo, anti-immulnization is in the same ballpark as HIV-denialism. Irrational and dangerous belief that denies scientific evidences and replaces them with conspiracy theories. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the goa constrictor Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 One of my biggest problems with the goa trance scene has been its susceptibility for buying into conspiracies and pseudoscience. I know vaccines are scary, but they've been vetted and are far more safe than getting the plague. New theories suggest the increased rates of autism are, not because of the rise of vaccines but, due to the processed foods, sugars, and grains. Not processed as in GMO tomatoes, but the refined sugars and flours. Our guts control so much of our mind and body that when we take in a bunch of rubbish, and pass that down to our young, it fucks with them. Change the diet, change the mind. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technosomy Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 12 hours ago, thanosp81 said: Well, I wouldn't say stupid since they are based on a reasoning. However, whether that reasoning has any validity, that's what I would like to discuss Not just some, the vast majority, at least in developed countries. That stuff have a clearly defined reason for being there. I take it you are not immunised then? Am I correct? i was when i was a child my kids are not after having a friends child lose arms and legs from meningitis, proved and compensated from vacine nephew who can no longer walk after hpv vacine not to mention everybody around me in the work place dropping like flies with severe infuenza and pneumonia from the latest flu vaccine here in australia will take our chances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veracohr Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I think the concern over vaccine quality should be separated from the basic argument for vaccination. Obviously such unintended consequences are bad, but (not knowing any numbers off the top of my head), I'd be surprised if the percentage was very high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technosomy Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 higher than you could ever imagine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padmapani Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 for the typical recommended vaccines, your chances for contracting long term issues (or serious short term complications) from a vaccine is about 1/1000 of your chances for contracting the same thing by the disease. the data is very clear. if you don't do your part in eliminating diseases we could actually eradicate in a few years (such as measles), i wish you would have been born in a time when you had the choice to accept or decline the smallpox shot. msc in biochem and pharmaceutical chemistry here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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