Guest healium Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 Ok, a few questions: Why is "Progressive" trance called "Progressive"? What does the word "Progressive" mean anyway, as it relates to trance? Is "Progressive" the same as "Minimal"? Is "Progressive" somehow seperate from "Psychedelic" trance? (I see people writing "well this album is really progressive but still has a lot of psychedelic trance in it" and that sort of thing) What is "Tech-Trance"? How is Tech Trance different fro Progressive Trance? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maden Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 i don t think you need an explication about that, you know what is a progressive music, just listen more and more all kind off trance and you will touch the answer off your question. any way in the most part off the progressive trance the starting is mostly minimal, and become more rich and melodic in the second part off the track ... ticon, atmos, beat bizzare work in this sense i think imo. and the tech trance is some trance with techno influence (timetech) with not too much full on bassline, but this is my feeling about the music, and my word are maybe not the same for some others listener. peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 Some maybe consider Tetraktys for Progressive, and MidiMiliz/Spirallianz are excellent exsamples of Tech-Trance... Take care now, bye bye then.. Quark- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tripster Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 I recommend you the articles on www.wikipedia.org about progressive electronica, psy-trance and trance music. I was wondering the same thing as you a few times ago Good luck ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmiwinks Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 hehehe I already asked this question here and as you can see, the "definition" of progressive ranges from eurotrance to oldschool goa!! SMI²LE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest healium Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 OMG & LOL, you're right there Lemmiwinks - noone really has a clue it seems! I've always taken progressive to mean anything that has that non-maximal and slow build-up of layers sound, like Infected Mushroom "BP Empire", Beat Bizarre, Magnetrix, Reefer Decree, etc etc... In the USA where I live tho "progressive trance" is the nice way of saying "club trance" - "progressive trance" in the USA is Paul Okenfold, BT, Sandra Collins, Taylor, etc etc... --------------------- "Tech-trance" is really undefinable I think - people say X-Dream "Irritant" is tech trance, but when you look at how the tracks are composed, there's nothing different about it compared to much other psytrance - "Irritant" just has a more stereotypically "Techno" sound to it, a more "Technological" sound to it... So then is it true for me to say that "Tech-trance" is just a casual term for rather minimal psytrance that has a real mechanical or techno(logical) sound? So then, Son-Kite "Perspectives Of.." and X-Dream "Irritant" are both tech-trance right? ------------------------- Another question, what is "full-on"? Does this refer to the BPM count or the amount of maximalism occuring with the sounds and melodies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike D Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 Yeah Healiumhit the nail on the head with progresssive... it d-uh progresses... so you start with very little, drums n' maybe a little atmospherice sound, as it goes along it builds up to a full pumping track and then slowly takes away the layers again until you are left with atmospheres as outro... Techtrance is obviously something that is very much like techno in strucutre with a bit more trancey FX involved, The Delta - "send In...Send Back" album or the first 2 Horns and Hoofs Entertainment compiltions... Full On I would take to mean it is full of pounding beats and synths from word go to end, it is so intense you just don;t get time to breathe, like Absolum live when I saw him ast year, was good but my head was wee bit ruined by the end, way to intense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jaaaay Posted May 25, 2004 Share Posted May 25, 2004 Okay, this is to ANYONE with answers, ideas ..... I was wondering how many types of psytrance there is and an example for each style or category, like an artist or group artist to relate to. Comments anyone?... see questions below. I think they can help inform many questions about this music and clear up some assumptions people have. Okay, I am aware, for instance, that "Dark Soho" and "Xenomorph" is dark psytrance, but it also has horror, atmospheric sounds too. Does that mean it is literally... [Dark, "horror" psytrance] or simply dark (such as Miranda) Psytrance that happens to have "evil" or "horror" melodies? I think that Astral Projection is full-on psytrance, right? What does full-on mean exactly?, that it is made for the dance floor mainly with tracks that have many layers and lots of energy? Full-On? Yet you wouldn't call Hallucinogen or X-DREAM "FULL-ON" and you can dance to those, or are those actually full-on? Isn't GOA the same meaning as psytrance or not? I read that GOA is the older sound of psytrance, like some people say, ... "oh I miss the old, classic goa sound." Isn't the word "GOA" simply a generalization for psytrance or is it a specific word related to a time before psytrance broke up into multiple sub-categories, such as minimal psytrance, full-on, neo, etc...? I am aware that the islands off India (island called GOA) is where GOA originally formed, or so I read, but does it mean psytrance, for ex: is "minimal psytrance" truly considered GOA in anyway? I always looked at the word "GOA" as more special so I hope not, but it seems that the word "GOA" is taken out of context and misconstrued in too many ways. Can someone explain this? Just many category's are there and I don't mean house, trance, techno, drum and bass, trip-hop, I know that... I mean how many category's of psytrance are there? It sounds way too lacking and weak to classify Hallucinogen as simply, "Psytrance?", right? what do we look for to distinguish one style from another? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jay Posted May 25, 2004 Share Posted May 25, 2004 forget the post above, I'm making a new thread so hopefully someone will notice and address it or some of it. The THREAD will be called, "What are the types of psytrance..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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