Open Source Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 In this video i cite the reasons that I believe psytrance will soon cease to exist in the form that we know it. Check my music on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/2gponzmhHF1GO3L7J4Ox9B 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartzabel Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Haha haha 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proxeeus Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Put that video @ Playback Speed x 1.75 and it's like you're at a party and there's that dude trying to explain to everybody the latest shit-hot conspiracy theory. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multi-Media Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 @Bartzabel Well articulated post @Open Source I do not know much famous, new Psytrance or what I heard was not my taste.Seems Vini Vici mostly produces together with others..but here a track which seems to be from him alone: (I pulled these tracks cause you named this band)  Maybe I am missing something but can you explain what is so great about it? It has even the ethno elements from old and cheesy samples ? Note not dissing the artist, it is well produced!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multi-Media Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Another one - even if track itself is good, but what you perhaps call vocals kind of destroy it. Also are you saying the people making darker stuff have no future and should stop and instead emulate the artists you named? Just curious ? So we have even more same sounding music? So the age old Indian "Namaste" or U.F.O. theme is the future or something new ? Trying to understand...   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartzabel Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 From a general perspective, I'm only 40 years old with 23 of those years in the music industry. Touring heavy metal bands from 1997-2005 who I sold my company & then making music for ads and tv.  but people in general like their life to predicable & routine based. Like kids, it gives a sense of safety and control, which is a complete illusion as this year has proven no one has any control over anything and to think you do is just hilarious.  therefore the average person likes predictable music. They like the baseline, beat and melody to follow a formula. Just like most people are happy to f#ck the same way as long as they cum. it is why actually talented musicians can cash in on writing predictable pop music. Ed Sheeran for example is one the most talented guitar players to ever exist, but he's not going to cash in playing for some black metal band wanking over the ashes of a burnt church while performing goat bukkake (I love black metal by the way musically but the aesthetics are just hilariously stupid). so popular psy trance follows a very predictable formula, but people think it's edgy because of the cultural & religious appropriation and the slightly tripped out sounds. They will never listen to forest stuff, even Zenon makes them slightly uncomfortable.  the same applies to every genre. People are happy to listen to pop hip hop that talks of birches, Rape and murder as long as it has predictable and funky beat. Drop some NWA shit and they freak. People will listen to Metallica, but drop Dying Fetus and they will freak.  if you want to push musical boundaries, if you want to go full experimental, if you want to go full hardcore you will be never be popular, get lots of paid gigs or royalties. that's why even the neo-goa rubbish sounds about as exciting as another night banging my wife the same way. It feels good in the moment but in the end it's about as satisfying as McDonald's.     1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recursion loop Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Idk, I fell in love with psytrance because it had energy, trippy and spaced out sounds but also melody and emotion. Now it still has energy and spaced out trippy sounds, more than ever, but melody and emotion are very rare to find. I still kinda enjoy it because I've got an acquired taste to this aesthetics, but I think if I would have been first exposed to psytrance in 2020 and not in 2006 I'd unlikely have any interest to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multi-Media Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 He makes some points - but he need to explain them more, so I am curious if the OP will come back and reply... or just drop a video link and is gone. OTH who cares if most people today hate dark psytrance (as he said), the ones making it do not want to be popstars anyway (I guess?). @Bartzabel I find it interesting that some (or even many) psytrance fans like some blackmetal (me too), perhaps one of the reasons is.. it is not that far apart musically. Bold statement? I explain, both styles use repetitions (eg. tremolo riffs or 303 patterns) and trance inducing sounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KER Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 On 7/5/2020 at 3:42 AM, Bartzabel said: Haha haha Interesting. A status on Facebook can't be longer than 63,206 characters, but this one is 491,519 characters lo long. ...On the OT video, I didnt listen or see through it all at all. I'll leave this here for moped lol Haha haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astralprojection Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Wtf is happening in this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recursion loop Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 This thread has NO future! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartzabel Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Apologies I went off the deep end a bit...  yes I like music with atmosphere, not necessarily having to have great composition or follow the rules of melody. black metal fulfills that a lot, especially stuff like Wolves In The Throne Room (nicest guys on the planet btw), Mizmor, Wiegedood and many others.  anyway it was a crazy weekend my end for one for my kids but all will be good.  apologies for the insanity.    Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontier Psychiatrist Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 apology for poor english when were you when psy trance dies? i was sat at home eating smegma butter when pjotr ring ‘psy trance is kill’ ‘no’ 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multi-Media Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Fuck this shit, the OP trolled and is not coming back. Btw. I noted he has a label:Â http://www.ghostlabel.gr And made videos about how to become professional in music... (quite ironic eh) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astralprojection Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 mods... can you please do something? i tried scrolling to MultiMedias response on my phone and it exploded and Im now deformed because of it. Stop slacking, I see youre active. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veracohr Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 For fuck's sake guys! Couldn't you limit it to 100 "Haha"s instead of a million? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multi-Media Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 For the OP: Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartzabel Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Hee hee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolmot Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ha-ha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantra604 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Â 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkraver Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Why psytrance has a bright future   1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veracohr Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 6 hours ago, Mantra604 said:  Oh man, I remember the gnashing of teeth over triplets! Like they were an affront to human decency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copper smith Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 what ?? psy lived before electronic music came to existence. trance has been an age old tradition/ medium to connect from within.. while you say that.. i came across a really cool workshop.. i dont think psy will die as long as blackhole is there.. u know... https://www.instagram.com/adaptmusicacademy/?hl=en Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recursion loop Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Compared to some Vini Vici stuff and similar, I think Future Ducks of London is actually a decent track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astralprojection Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 edit: screw off Loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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