PsyTrance Bass Synthesis VST - Which do you like!?

[MikroMakro]

I just checked Dimension 5, I see yes they keep the pulse going.. I am a fan of breakdown but kick continues of late, why I am not sure it just evolved that way as I put the tracks together... the dancer has a choice  The cue is there for a rest or carry nodding on, more versatile. I think you are right Recursion loop... maybe that plug in is the best thing since sliced bread, we should probably all try it on the next mix... but you can always try using your ears as well. I find if the KbBB is sounding radically different in headphones, or just plain wrong in the H/P's... compared to speakers (in a room you can trust pretty well) then most likely more work needs to be done to zone it in. It is not easy.. it is like running the gauntlet every time I start a track.

All of this is whetting my appetite for a new kick and bass, it's been a while.

 

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47 minutes ago, AstralSphinx said:

Because what we are looking for I guess isn't something that "minimizes the issue, rather eliminates it altogheter, right? If I have understood it correcly that is. So what I would find interesting is how this plugin would work isolated on kick and bass, compared to the methods provided in this thread.

Buy it and tell us then

 

 

47 minutes ago, AstralSphinx said:

 I'm just not sure which way would work best for me.

Only you can decide.

What kind of kick/bass are you making? bpms, kick style (short and punchy or long subby tail? or tonal like goa kicks?), bassline style? Most imprortantly, do you feel you kick/bass combo lacks something and what excatly it lacks (if it does)?

Phase aligment tips discussed here are not some kind of cool thing all the cool guys are doing because they are cool guys, it's a set of techniques that can improve the groove and maybe the tonal qualities (sub content) of your kick/bass in certain specific situations. Or can be useless in others.

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34 minutes ago, AstralSphinx said:

On a serious note, what I want to adress is perceived mudiness in the low end. 

Muddiness may have many causes, phase conflicts, frequency conflicts (not necerssary kick/bass, the leads may interfere the low end too if not hipassed enough). Some of that may be adressed even before the actual mixing, at sound design/arrangement stage.

I had been making very muddy mixes before I treated my room, so I know a lot about that  

What's about your room and monitors? Are you sure you hear your bass right? 

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1 hour ago, AstralSphinx said:

Did the room treatment take lots of time/money?

It's hard to estimate exactly as it was a part of bigger refurbishment I did in my appartment.

The materials didn't cost a lot, I used Rockwool Acoustic Batts and Lutrasil for covering (it's our local product, generally you need acoustically transparent fabric) they aren't very expensive here. 

I think when people say 500-600 EUR that's more or less close to what I've actually spent on the whole thing (or maybe it was even less) - but this will depend on your local prices ofc.

Great article on that, basically I did what's described here

https://www.masteringmastering.co.uk/cheap-acoustic-treatment-for-mixing.html

 

I'd also say that the room treatment should be done before buying new monitors. For a year after I had treated my room I was using the same shitty KRK Rokit G5 as I had before but the treatment drastically improved my mixing abilities (or, to put it bluntly, I finally became able to deliver passable mixes  )

[Prophecy99]

random bump, but i finally put up some sound treatment panels in the studio! and hot dang ! incredible difference ! its really hard to describe, but night and day.  i made 7.25" deep panels w 6"  Roxul AFB batt with 1.25" gap 24"x48" mounted in 4 wall corners (i have two more panels very similar where i still want to decide where to hang).  i am lucky that two of the corners actually are first reflection points as well.

last night was the first night I turned on the monitors.  you basically hear the speakers first and only the speakers, not the room. anywhere you move in the room it sounds clean and not different like when there are no treatments.  the sound of the bass is almost felt like when your at a festival. the bass is felt more.  there is less of a cannned noise (untreated room),.

the sound sounds cleaner and slightly louder. it was a lot of work but so worth it. i am more than glad i did them.  it wasn't that challenging to build but you have to have the time and patience and some decent tools.