Tsotsi Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Hey gang, I saw a thread that has been removed (I guess) that was discussing 'freestyle music' I'm after albums that don't really sit inside any genre. Maybe early pioneer stuff from the 90's, or something you would expect someone to make the comment 'before we had defined genre's' about. Any recommendations would be great, the latest 'Sibilant - Proper Filth' is my only real reference point, or stuff by Sab Kuch Milegator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technosomy Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 i would search through all psy-harmonics, demontea back catalogue, some real gems in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padmapani Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 talpa - when the somberness becomes the game comes to my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kicma Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Yes, if you are looking for experimental then definitely Psy-Harmonics and Demon Tea, also Devic Craft Cordings, WMS Records, it's mostly Australian stuff. If you like Sibilant then you might check 21-3 Records but I wouldn't call that freestyle / experimental, it's begginning of psybreaks. Sab Kuch Milegator is unique forest goa, something maybe similar would maybe be Kiriyama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psytones Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Koxbox - The Great Unknown All (i think) Demon Tea Recordings releases on their Bandcamp are now Free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padmapani Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 9 hours ago, AstralSphinx said: A fun album with a nice concept, I really like the album artwork Although I would definitely not have a problem defining its style. It's on the border of darker melodic psy but also has some slight humour and also some melancholy. Stylewise it harkens back to some of Infected Mushrooms albums, B.P Empire perhaps and some small inspirations from The Gathering, Classical Mushroom and Converting Vegetarians. It has a funky element too, and I'm sure it has inspirations from other contemporary styles/artists as well that I don't know about. But it's certainly Psytrance through and through. A very distinct Talpa-spin on it. Perhaps the humouristic touches are influenced by that aspect of Suomisaundi? it's neither progressive nor fullon nor darkpsy nor goa. and imho it's too weird and non-psy-like in sound choices to be compared to the classic psytrance of the early 00s (such as psysex, hux flux, ...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padmapani Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 12 hours ago, AstralSphinx said: I see your point, but for me atleast it's melodic Psy-Trance with a pinch of darkness. Just because it doesn't fit neatly into the sub-genres you mentioned, doesn't mean it's genre-less? i think we interpret the topic a little differently. as i see it tsotsi is asking about psytrance that doesn't fit neatly into sub-categories instead of music that doesn't fit into any sort of genre (and therefore cannot be psytrance at all). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psytones Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 For what's worth I agree with AstralSphinx about yhe Talpa biz. And for me pulling this out makes me feel dated: https://www.discogs.com/Psyknights-A-Faint-Light-From-The-Depth/master/23266 Not Talpa: https://procs.bandcamp.com/album/touchdown-in-hizzytown-lost-theory-2012 Pigeonholing music kinda ruins it #PSYTRANCE is in it self withour rules or boanderies. What matters is it it is Psychedelic or not, something you'øl more or less truly realize on a trip .. objectivity?-retorical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psytones Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Yes you're really right, and well spoken .. Some artworks man, know the psychedelic secret(s). I can do nothing but utter respect and admiration. Thanks for your spot on post. This normal artwork has always facinated me, because it's so ,,normal" and in it's own right, creepy. An old painted portrait of someone. I never did look at it on a psychedelic. https://demontearecordings.bandcamp.com/album/odd-harmonic-coincidentalism PS. I've been told by Hutti Heita that he and Procs pioneered the modern Forest bass/kick thingy like 20 years ago or so. Not together, just in general. I find that statement interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsotsi Posted September 12, 2020 Author Share Posted September 12, 2020 Sorry i saw the posts throughout the day and figured it was doing fine, but yea, I was pretty vague. 1 hour ago, AstralSphinx said: It must've felt so liberating for the early pioneers of this genre to not feel the need to be restrained by the more restrictive style boundaries within other, at the time well-defined genres "This exactly^ I'm looking for early works from artists, not necessarily freestyle but stuff that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ that comment would belong on. So still trance, still psytrance even, but a unique early works that people would consider 'unrestricted'. Dragon Twins and Cronomi's releases I suppose are a good modern take on what i'm after. Or fuck it even a well known freestyle album. Damn this is very vague. I checked out the Demon Tea backlog and thought they had way more in their catalog than the 1 release per year situation (Just cause of how they are referenced a lot) anyway the albums I did listen to where close to what I want. But for the first time ever I'm looking for something a little more well known, maybe 'That' album. BTW I listened to the Talpa album (Great album, very unique) all morning and if it wasn't introduced to me in this thread I would've just taken the easy road and called it 'psytrance'. That's the beautiful part of that name, you can choose to take it literally and then anything psychedelic + anything trance fits in.....But ignore that perspective for the purpose of this thread 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psytones Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Is the 3rd track on this EP kinda what you're thinking about? Genrewise it's quite the original and crossover style by the Artist. https://kaliearth.bandcamp.com/album/balder-ep and I'd say the 2nd track is also that, original style .. Track one is also that maybe but for sure more mimic'ing the Forest style .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsotsi Posted September 29, 2020 Author Share Posted September 29, 2020 7 hours ago, psytones said: Is the 3rd track on this EP kinda what you're thinking about? Genrewise it's quite the original and crossover style by the Artist. https://kaliearth.bandcamp.com/album/balder-ep and I'd say the 2nd track is also that, original style .. Track one is also that maybe but for sure more mimic'ing the Forest style .. Haha, funny you mention this, I just shot a quick vid for this yesterday. Been on my mind since I got it. Not quiet the music in mind for this topic though. Think closer to 90's artists that 'were free to make trance without any presets or predefined styles 'restricting' them' Out of the box thinking or a style that didn't hit mainstream. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTP Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Here's something I'd percieve as genreless: ...Psytrance or Trance or Tribal Industrial? By the way, I think that This Morn' Omina is way underrated on this forum ...again: what is it: Psytrance? Nah. Industrial? Nah. Genreless? Maybe. It certainly is a way to make the otherwise cheesy and bubblegum-like indian samples sound sharply on point ... and awesome, in my opinion. "Look up - and know!" there seems to be a psytrance mix of this btw, but it's on an obscure sampler and I was not able to find it till now ...and now for something completely different: ...Psychill or HipHop or TripHop? genreless! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsotsi Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 Thanks for the replies everyone, I decided to search 'Cookie-Cutter' into the psynews global search and came across people opinions of Crossing Minds - Inner Shift album. This thread had a wealth of comments that sort of indicate the opinions towards the music i was looking for. Even though we can easily call this Goa, I think the comments praising it as unique and one of a kind are closer to the sort of album I was looking for. Bad thread title on my behalf Another mention in the thread was Jikkenteki which fits the mold. And I think maybe peoples opinions of X-Dream Radio would also illicit opinions of praise for complete originality and out of the box thinking....hmm, out of the box, that gives me an idea. If anyone is still interested with this then I hope this helps clarify much more than every other terrible attempt from me so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTP Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Huh okay so I was a bit in a wrong direction to waht you wanted there However, if you throw in X-Dream's Radio there, I'd say Hux Flux - Cryptic Crunch? Has equal amount of "personality" - let's call it that - in my opinion. Not genreless though, but X-Dream isn't either Son Kite - Prisma comes to mind. THAT is quite out of the box thinking in my opinion. Especially their last album is the farthest out there I'd say - previous works I prefer though, because that was good old progressive as we know it - even though Colors was quite modern already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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