musical scales

[Guest randummboy]

what musical scales is goa written with?

[Guest noctilucentcloud]

hmmm...good question. !?!

[shpongled]

Try this scale:

 

c, c#, d#, e, f#, g, a, a#

[Hels]

From what I've seen it's mostly derivitaves of the phryigian and harmonic minor scales.

Phyrigian:

1 b2 b3 4 5 b6 b7 (C Db Eb F G Ab Bb)

 

Here's the one I've see the most for that "typical goa" sound which is a mode of harmonic minor:

Phyrigian #3:

1 b2 3 4 5 b6 b7 (C Db E F G Ab Bb)

 

Pretty much any scale with a b2 in it works well for goa becuase those scales cater well to Neopolitan chords (major b2 chord or Db major in a C key). Phyrigian #3 scale is cool cause it has a b2 to natural 3 which lends it self to many cool harmonic possibilities.

[Guest Mugge]

Jesus christ! Thats what a call an analysis...

[Guest Mike Indidginus]

Ah yes, the neopolitan chords. Don't you just love those cheeky rascals?

[Guest psychopat]

Yngwie Malmsteen used to play harmonic minor scales too, but

with his guitar and it is pure old scholl "heavy-metal" if you

know who/what I am talking about......

So 'the right scale' yes, but with the right instrument/sound

;-)

 

(no offense, just joking)

[Guest Slidingtrancer]

Hels, can you send me a mail to explain that?... or a website?

I wanna learn theory, but its so hard, most websites are lousy and I dont have time to do courses... Doing everything by ear is possible, but robs much of my time ...

[shpongled]

Hels...

 

What notes you play when you play major b2 chord?

 

and what about Db major in a C key?

 

Isn't major kind of "happy" chord? I don't like too happy melodies. > heh evil me.

 

Could you give an example of "cool harmonic" chord progression ?

 

And finally could somebody show few cool chords that doesn't sound cheesy... maybe something spacey and something mystical.

 

Actually I'm going to star a new thread.

 

Thanks. ))

[Guest Amanita Muscaria]

Spacey scale:

 

C-D-E-#F-#G-#A-C

[shpongled]

Thanks.. but what about spacey chord/chord progression?

[Hels]

That scale is a whole tone scale (not that it matters it still sounds the same!).

Spacey chords are kind weird,

In trance there isn't much use of real chords outside of arpeggios. Like if you or I heard a dom7b5#13 chord in the middle of a goa song you'd probably be like "wtf was that?!"

In something like trance there is pretty much the bass and melody which outline the chord progression. Kind of hard to say a cool progression for goa...maybe a neat one (one that I use for an ethnic fusion-y sort of sound) is C major b9 (the voicing I use on guitar and piano is C G Db E) to a Db Major chord (Db F Ab, maybe throw an E on the top if you want) to a Bb minor 9 chord (voicing I like: Bb F C Db).

That's a neat one but I don't know how youd exactly put a bassline to that progression (haven't really tried) although I have used similar progressions in a background synth-y sort of thing and it sounds pretty good. It's all about experimenting yourself! I hope that answered some questions!

[shpongled]

Thanks Hels.

[Guest randummboii]

wow.. all this stuff is overwhelming for new producers.. sheesh

[Guest Joshua Kling]

Deriving scales isn't too difficult once you know how. All you need to know is the intervals. The smallest interval is a half-step, which coresponds to one key on a keyboard. The interval between C and C# is a half-step. A whole-step is 2 half-steps. The interval between C and D is a whole-step.

 

Major Scale:

Whole-step, whole-step, half-step, whole-step, whole-step, whole-step, half-step.

 

Example: C Major: C, D, E, F, G, A, B, C

 

Melodic Minor Scale:

Whole-step, half-step, whole-step, whole-step, whole-step, whole-step, half-step.

 

Example: C Melodic Minor: C, D, Eb, F, G, A, B, C

 

Harmonic Minor Scale:

Whole-step, half-step, whole-step, whole-step, half-step, 3-step, half-step

 

Example: C Harmonic Minor: C, D, Eb, F, G, Ab, B, C

 

Natural Minor Scale:

Whole-step, half-step, whole-step, whole-step, half-step, whole-step, whole-step.

 

Example: C Natural Minor: C, D, Eb, F, G, Ab, Bb, C

[Guest Slidingtrancer]

Weird sounding scale:

 

b,c#,d#,f,g,g#,a

 

I have no idea what it IS... but it CAN sound awfully cool