Guest Pranaspace Posted April 1, 2002 Share Posted April 1, 2002 whatcha all think of this piece of machinery? i am thinking about investing in one - appreciate all the feedback ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drav Posted April 1, 2002 Share Posted April 1, 2002 why bother?? Correct me if im wrong but the karma doesent seem that geared towards psy trance. Have a look (and a play) on the nord, novation and access stuff first. I think youll find it pretty hard to get the sort of twisted music you want (i assume you want twisted noises) out of the karma. Then again i havent actually played one, im just going on what the rest of the Korg range (like the triton) is like. Dont get me wrong ive heard good things about the karma, but for psy trance i think you can do better for the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pranaspace Posted April 1, 2002 Share Posted April 1, 2002 on that note lets say i had about $1000 to spend on equipment that would be a good backbone to build off of - what would you suggest? something versatile in the range of not only psytrance but drum and bass and even ambient production? thats a $1000 to spend on a synth, sampler, and so forth - do i go for seperate components or one unit? all your help is greatly appreciated - thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest suarajana Posted April 1, 2002 Share Posted April 1, 2002 i'm with drav on the karma-it's more like a big arpeggiator than a good raw tool. good hardware synths: access virus, novation, roland jp-8080 if i had $1000 burning a hole in my pocket right now, i'd go software synthesis all the way, and still have a few hundred left over. :reason, cubase, logic audio, < look into those programs anything music you've ever listened to can be made with them when you learn it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wow Posted April 1, 2002 Share Posted April 1, 2002 i dunno the idea of karma's random riff generator.. kinda takes the magic out of composition, don't you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drav Posted April 2, 2002 Share Posted April 2, 2002 suarajana has got it nailed. I see what you mean now, you want to invest in some kit as a base for making music. Sounds boring i know but the computer is that solid base. The karma is more a keyboard for live players in a band. Have a look at some software sequencers like cubase and logic (cubase is eeasier to get your heead round) These drive everything else like synthesisers, as most trance is way too complex to play by hand. Other than that a decent soundcard is a must. I dont know how much knowledge you have about all this so i apologise if i sound patronizing Basiclly youre looking for something with good audio (recording sound) capabilities, but also good latency so you can play software synthesisers (on the computer) without having a delay between you pushing the keys on your keyboard and hearing the noise. Look for a latency below 10 ms. Id highly recomend a Midiman Audiophile. For the price (pretty low) theres nothing better. Dont know where youre from, but here in england its about £150. Other than that you just need a controller keyboard. These can be as cheap or as expensive as you like. Thats youre control sorted, now you just need sounds. This where the real divides lie. Some swear by hardware, others love software. If youre starting out, id recommend software, purely cos its cheaper. However im not going to dive into this all now, as my fingers are hurting See my post on reaktor for a wicked software synth, and theres another good post on hardware synths a bit further down the page. Sorry if ive been too basic for you, any other queestions id be glad to help with Synthesize the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pranaspace Posted April 2, 2002 Share Posted April 2, 2002 i really appreciate all the help and will look into the software aspect as a start - and for all the products - thanks for those suggestions - will look into tinkering with these programs soon enough - peace and light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest phlux0r Posted April 2, 2002 Share Posted April 2, 2002 You got some pretty good advice from drav already so I'll just say how I went about building up my setup so far: First, I didn't know anything about making electronic music but I got some tips from some friends to look at software like FruityLoops and ReBirth and later Reason which I'd now recommend for anyone who wants to get into this but isn't sure wheter they want to spend big money on HW straight up. So, get Reason and start learning about sequencing, audio synthesis, sampling, mixing and, composition. Reason is very good to use because it emulates a real stuidio environment entirely in software and, hence, prepares you straigh up if you ever want to go hardware. So when I was more confident that I really wanted to go further with electronic music, I started looking at various hardware options. First thing was a MIDI keyboard since I got sick of "painting" notes into the sequencer. You can get either a good MIDI controller or a cheap MIDI capable synth (which kills two birds with one stone since you also get a great sound source for samples and sounds). I got myself a second hand Roland Alpha Juno 2 which has great semi weighted keys and velocity and does nice analog sound (good for bass and pads). The next thing was a good quality sound card to replace my crappy PC card. I decided to get the Hoontech C-Port 2000 (www.staudio.com) which is 16kHz-96kHz / 16-24 bit and has 8 ins & outs and 2 balanced MIC ins so you can plug in up to four stereo devices (or 8 mono) and do multitrack recording with low latency and great quality AND it's very affordable (round US$450) also works with Win2K. After that i slowly got a JP8080, Waldorf MicroQ and an Akai CD3000i sampler also a Fostex mixing console and a cheap ZOOM Studio FX unit. Most of my gear is sequenced from Logic audio. The problem with getting hardware is that I found that there is soooo much to be learned about every piece of gear (and of course Logic) if you want to get the most out of it. So I found myself not making any trax for a few months just because I wanted to learn all my gear. Now, I'm more confident and happy with the sounds I can get out of all this stuff... But, again, using Reason in the first place helped getting my head around real studio procedures... Hope this helps, phlux0r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest phlux0r Posted April 3, 2002 Share Posted April 3, 2002 Ooops, made a mistake with the C-Port description it supports sampling rates from 44.1kHz to 96kHz at 16 or 24 bit resolution...And, theoretically, you can get a latency of about 9ms at 96kHz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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