Guest Dr. Cheroot Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 Hi, I've noticed that sometimes my mixes, though beatmatched perfectly, sound kind of bad because of the difference in recording volumes of the CDs (I do not used burnt CDs, and use only original CDs). I'm not sure, but i think i've noticed this mostly with 3D Vision compilations; has anyone noticed that they are recorded at a lower volume? Or does this have something to do with my dj-ing habits or mebbe something wrong with my equipment? I use 2 CDJ-100s and a DJM-300, and turn the Trim level to Full on both players, and control the output only with the Master Volume on the mixer. This is very frustrating, coz i spend a lot of money to make sure i have original CDs, so if someone could help me figure out the cause, i would be very grateful. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouroboros Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 hey, hows it going... it is very possible that the cds are not recorded at the same levels. i cant say for sure about 3d vision but i have had this problem with other music.... namely when i used to mix a lot of industrial i found that nearly 100% of the time skinny puppy was distractingly lower in volume than all the other songs. like i said i have no idea if its the label or what, but how the cd is mastered does make a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeto Posted June 12, 2002 Share Posted June 12, 2002 It happens sometimes when you match the beats it sounds akward... even though its macthed perfectly the sound of the kickdrum is not the same so it sounds funny just something I noticed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr. Cheroot Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 hey Ouroboros, isn't that sad, i mean, what's the point of buying originals if you still can't be sure of the quality. I think that's weak, isn't there like an international standard or something? Jeto, i know what you're saying, but what i'm talking about is when the volume of the second track is low even after i cut off the first track completely (which means it is basically a problem during mastering the CD, as ouroboros pointed out) Thanks guys. I guess i'll just have to mess with the trim levels i guess, which sucks imho. np: Antidote: Transylvania (Antidotcom) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouroboros Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 hehe... nope no standard. they just master them the way they want them mastered. im not even sure it would be possible to have a standard....i think to have a standard every one would have to master with the exact same equipment and use the exact same levels..ect. ect.. of corse i could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pratik Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 most of t he time its just that to the person who mastered the track must have thought what sounds the best and recorded that. and other cds' track is mastered by other engineers so they both have diff ears which makes two diff tracks with diff highs' and lows. so there is no universal th ing in cds unless all the cds are mastered by one person. well still u can adjust the volume on cd player the way u want it. i mean i just started to play around with gemine direct turntables and even on vinyl the exam thing happens that Dr Cheroot explained. but what i do is adjust volume for the side i want to be either higher or lower on mixer. and best way to learn to mix live is to start playin around with house music. and then go into psy/goa little by little. hope this helped Dr Cheroot. and yea how is this equipment u are using??? i gave mine back for some reason but now i want buy it again. let me know. pratik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jaimz Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 Hi Doc, Yes, the levels on CDs are often different, although as Pratik says this is often the decision of the masterer - they usually have a good reason for it. But for starters you certainly shouldn't have the trim all the way up as you say you do. CDs with different levels gives you a good opportunity to learn to use the meters on the the mixer a little better. You should always make sure that there is only ever one red light flashing [flashing, not on all the time], on each channel. If you turn the trim up all the way you'll end up with three or more red bars, and this is bad. At home it doesn't seem to matter so much, but if you do that when you play on a big system, you'll force the sound system to kick in the limiters, and that's going to make the overall sound a lot muddier. Besides, keeping an eye on your levels means that you can learn to use the trim to keep your whole mix at the same volume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jaimz Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 I should add, most DJs are fucking morons and often go into the red. This causes problems for you, 'cause when you get on the decks you'll have to drop the volume a bit - see if you can find the guy in charge of the sound and tell him you're going to stay in the green when you play, and he'll probably agree to turn up the amps, giving you a better sound at the same volume. But be careful, 'cause if you go into the red with the amps up it'll sound REALLY @!#$ [we're talking distortion. :-(] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr. Cheroot Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 Jaimz, i guess that makes me one of the morons u were talking about. he he. I've never played at a party and usually just mess around at home. But i'll remember your tips, they were great. pratik, i love my CDJs and the DJM, though i must admit i couldn't compare it to anything else coz i haven't had the chance to try other equipment. But from the general public opinion and from what i see used at most parties, i guess Pioneer is the leader in the game. thanks guys,. that was quite an education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DJ Mike Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 ILL Solve all your problems, buy vinyl! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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