Guest Pswede Posted February 5, 2002 Share Posted February 5, 2002 You can hear it everywhere, the "psychedelic" and "tons of sounds" in almost every commerical popsong nowadays! You can definitly hear that MANY genres are influenced by the psytrance era (1994 'till now). Pop music is getting more "advanced" technically and more "noises" and synthetic "sounds" are put into the productions. Too me its just ripping off something good and make it something for "the big crowd". I think psytrance hasn't evolved for maybe 1-2 years now. The standard song today looks like "random sounds from a lousy sample-cd + echodelay + nice monoton bassline + some hihats/open hihats later on". I think it pretty much sucks, no real innovation, just using the same technique and making the same type of sounds. We need to move forward! Most the psy-music has lost its "intelligence" so to speak. For example, Hux Flux made/make pretty complex songs with alot of structure. People try to copy that but fail because they just simply put some samples ontop of a "fat" bassline. No real structure or direction. Ofcourse there are some artists who has a structure, but its too subtle/minimal, that it becomes uninteresting. I think labels should select less tracks, too much "standard-@!#$" is released nowadays. In my humble opinion (I've been listening to goa/psytrance since 1994). Listening to The Overlords - God's Eye On Goa right now. Nostalgic trip. Goosebumps. =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeff Posted February 5, 2002 Share Posted February 5, 2002 "You can hear it everywhere, the "psychedelic" and "tons of sounds" in almost every commerical popsong nowadays!" Typical examples ? J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Elysium Project Posted February 5, 2002 Share Posted February 5, 2002 I do not agree that the commercial market is "ripping off" sounds and effects from our scene...They are using a lot of influences from many electronic scenes! The whole electronic dance scene has "ripped off" 909 hi-hats and 4/4 beats from the disco music and our effects in the psy/goa scene are not at all unique but was used in many experimental bands in the seventies/eighties! Where would we be without Kraftwerk, Jean Michel Jarre, Depeche Mode, Brian Eno ect? I think that people in the "underground" scenes and especially in our scene should try to get over their fear for commercialism and instead be happy that more and more people actually like our music! I see it as a compliment when other music genres start to use elements from the electronic scene! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ibotenic Posted February 5, 2002 Share Posted February 5, 2002 What was that Faithless track again, the one which had the Infected M. sounding noise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lifeform Posted February 5, 2002 Share Posted February 5, 2002 well... I think that psychedelic sounds are moving into the pop mainstream because BT, i'm sure you know who he is, has been writting all their tracks for them! like britney spears, nsync... that's all i know for now, but i'm sure there is more! BT did pop for nsync, i just learned this 2 days ago. BT's a technical genious... But i do agree that psytrance has lost it's intelligence and structure that i once loved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pswede Posted February 5, 2002 Share Posted February 5, 2002 I think its ripping off, because alot of people HATE techno-music and they say electronic music isn't music at all. And then they go listening to N'Sync (for example). More and more people are using the same "techniques", but I dont think more and more people are listening to the genre itself. I love when more and more people like "our" music.. and not some "stolen" commercial @!#$.... sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mOre Posted February 5, 2002 Share Posted February 5, 2002 Someone wanted typical examples ? here you go: Britney Spears : Overprotected Britney Spears : Slave 4 U N ' Sync : POP so on so on son Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shpongled Posted February 5, 2002 Share Posted February 5, 2002 I have seen meny times people who are into psytrance say that it's good and positive thing that we take influences from other genres/cultures................ so why would it be bad other way around ? ? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Elysium Project Posted February 5, 2002 Share Posted February 5, 2002 I think it's sad that some of you use so much time complaining about other bands/artists using elements from our music ! Who cares if Britney Spears or N' Sync use some of our "techniques" (by the way do we have monopoly on these techniques?). Enjoy your music and stop these redicilious compaints! What are you so afraid of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Raider Posted February 5, 2002 Share Posted February 5, 2002 I think it's quite great to hear some more psy-like sounds in pop-music. Sounds kool in some of Madonna's latest stuff, n' Britney's as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mogwai Posted February 6, 2002 Share Posted February 6, 2002 I'd say current mainstream sounds are more influenced by HouseEuro Trance and D&Bbreakbeat sounds that Psytance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest narwhal Posted February 6, 2002 Share Posted February 6, 2002 It's also a natural consequence of the availability of different cheaper synths and grooveboxes with more preset "analogish"sounds and soundeffects than before. Very fun to play with and difficult to resist to mix them into every kind of music. Beside that it has allways been a common practice that topproducers who work for everybody in the popmusicbusiness used in their mixes all the "underground" influences they hear in the newest "non-commercial" (what 's in a name)productions.You can be frustrated that others than the originals get the credits, but that 's how it is most of the time. I personally don't care, as long as I have my favorite psymusic available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pswede Posted February 6, 2002 Share Posted February 6, 2002 Well, I shouldnt be afraid.. We should be proud maybe.. I mean, psytrance HAS something "good" when bigtime producers are influenced by it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wayne Posted February 7, 2002 Share Posted February 7, 2002 Britney influenced by psy-trance, c'mon mOre, lay off the shrooms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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