Guest llazi Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 I've been playing around music progs for the last 3 years now. The last months i've starting to like my music and getting more serious. Still, i've been working on my drums and bass, and they are a bit muffy. Since I don't have a full professional studio of my own, I thought purchasing a good sample cd would be the best solution. Now can any1 recomend me any good cd with base drums and bass thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slidingtrancer Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 I wouldn't spend a dime on sample cds for that, you CAN make your own drums and basses which are strong... Its all about synthesis anyway... lots of samples around the Net as well, just need some compression, eq go figure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest llazi Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 Thanks for the answer Slidingtrancer, but I don't think you got the idea. My current equipment doesn't allow me to make my own drums and basses I don't have a decent mixer & monitors. You schould know that I can try so hard I can but I still will get that muffy and blured sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slidingtrancer Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 I can understand what you mean, I dont have a decent mixer or monitors either. These should be your first buys.... but in the meantime you should focus on producing kicks and basses without that. There is a lot fo software around that can make pretty ( non-muffy or blurred) basslines and kicks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest llazi Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 Ok, I got it. Let me get this to another direction. I think the bassline and kick is what specifies a gerne, i our case psy. So weather we want it or not,the bassline and kick, has to be in this direction. Leaving alone all other tracks parts and focusing to this, why schould an artist waste time creating basslines and kicks from the very begininig (if you want to create a whole new one of course). I mean isn't it better to get sample cd, profesionally recorded, and then applying some personal changes. Then then artist can fully concetrate in recording the track as it is in his mind. What you think ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ben Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 i think you should create your own basselines and kicks yourself. Which sequencer are you using?? To get good basselines and kicks you need to Eq them properly and you won't be able to do that if you don't have good monitors. Even if you buy sample cds i don't think you will not get a very good sound out of it. And i think it is much better to create your own stuffs than just ripping others peoples work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest slave2rave Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 Ben, he just didn't mention to "rip" others peoples work. He said he would apply his own changes on them. And if the cd is for selling, it's free for use on whatever you want to use. So it's not the case of a rip. If he wants a solution for his problem, just give the solutions, if you know any. Don't just go criticizing what he wants to do. Ditto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest llazi Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 Right slave2rave that was my idea. But to come back to my idea, correct me if i'm wrong, I am making let's say progressive psy or even close to the tech stuff, these tracks are charectarized by it's similar drum's and bassez just a bite refined from one another. So why the hell schould i make my bass when Ticon offers me a cd with his drum and bass samples. I like these drums and bassez. At the end I would use my time not in making my drums but in creating the track, wich is not often left alone while beeing proud of your justsupernew created bass. Than's my though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kits / faxanadu Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 llazi what you are basically doing is being a dj not a producer - imho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest llazi Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 You just don't get it he. Just read my lines till the end and try to understand me dude. I has nothin to do with dj-ing. jeez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest coriolis Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 until you get monitors, you won't know how you kicks and basses sound. even if you bought a high quality sample cd, it would contain many different kicks and basses and you wouldn't be able to hear the right ones to pick for your track. the solution that i would recommend to you is to just try to get some better speakers. anything that you can find. they don't have to be $2000 speakers (but that would help . and if you can't get good speakers, then just listen to it on lots of different (crappy) speakers. burn a cd and listen to it in cars, and so on. i don't know how much you know about tweaking bass freqs, but your muddy sound may also be the result of bad eq. most of the time, a kick and bassline need separate eq-ing to make them fit together so they don't muff eachother up. this often (for me) involves a highpass filter on the bassline especially. you also may have some loud sub-frequencies that you can't hear on your shoddy speakers. put a low-cut (high-pass) filter on the very very low end of your bass and kick, i.e. cut off everything below 50hz or so because you won't be able to hear it anyway and it will just eat up your headroom and muddy up your sound. also, try to work with basslines that have higher harmonic registers so the energy of your bassline doesn't conflict with the lower-freq energy of the kick. hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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