Guest Al-Khaberta Posted April 19, 2003 Share Posted April 19, 2003 Put your Hujaboy album in the player and play the 8th track from about 3:40, and notice the loop... And then compare it to the loop from the techno track Devilfish - Man Alive... It's exactly the same loop. Did Hujaboy steal the loop from Devilfish? Or even better, did they both take the same loop from some CD with music samples and put it in their tracks? That really sucks, and whenever I hear some cool beat in a song I'll conclude that the artist probably didn't make it by himself, but simply put the already finished sample in his track... And that's a huge minus for him if you ask me because it's obvious, uninventive and spits in the face of everything related to creativity, musical talent and originality. So, dear artists, pleeease make your own beats and melodies because this sample taking really, really sucks... )) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PiNG Posted April 20, 2003 Share Posted April 20, 2003 i dont agree. Sometimes you find a loop / sample that fits perfectly in your music and if you use it, the music gets like 200% better... I believe in no barriers for music - I mean, ppl use sample from movies (they don make it themselves), ppl make remixes from old songs like Metallica - Seek and Destroy or the Addams family - why cant they use samples from a CD or something like that... If U listen to Shiva shidapu - Diffusion the PC sample is exactly the one who comes with fruity loops - but it fits well... If u speak only in talent, I agree with you, but in terms of musicality, music has that freedom - i believe that the best musician is the one that makes the best music - not how he makes it - if it is good music he is good musician Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Al-Khaberta Posted April 21, 2003 Share Posted April 21, 2003 No, using just individual samples as the most basic elements to craft something out of them is perfectly OK, what I meant are already finished melody and drum loops which the artists just put in. Those are not exactly basic elements (like a single kick or hi-hat), but arrangements of basic elements. Go hear the two tracks and you'll see... For example, say you write a story. You create words from letters, and sentences out of words. And then you put the sentences together and have a story. But this loops-from-sample-cds thing is like putting entire already finished sentences and making a story out of them. A track can sound fine, but when I hear another track with exactly the same loops, it spoils the fun... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Towelie Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 Theres acutally fruityloops simsynth samples in mfg's the message album and that really bothers me. I don't usually like movie samples either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ms Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 Shpongle uses ALOT of samples from SAMPLE CD's... Without changing them. Lame? yes. Good music? yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ms Posted April 22, 2003 Share Posted April 22, 2003 Shpongle uses ALOT of samples from SAMPLE CD's... Without changing them. Lame? yes. Good music? yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andreas of Amygdala Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 Not just vocal statements and stuff comes out of movies. My very famous part on the first Delta album - track 8, about 3:10... The strings are from some movie, but I don't remember wich one. I was a bit disappointed when I found out, but now I think "what the hell". The track is still equally good, and without the musicians' touch, and most importantly the idea to rip off the movie's soundtrack, my derived pleasure from that track would never have been. What bothers me slightly more, is artists repeating themselves (oops, I should get a new kick soon...) - using presets in synths are fine, if it's done nicely, but reusing phunky effects tailored for other tracks is lame - sadly, that's why I don't like the newer Eat Static stuff (they are still my heroes for giving us "Science of the Gods" though...) To summarize: 1. What makes good music good is the sound, not where it came from 2. Don't immitate, innovate! .oO Andreas Oo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andreas of Amygdala Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 BTW, just went to the next track on "schizoeffective" and in there is a loop I myself have used ages ago - I never noticed it was the same!! Sub-consciously I may have though "this is good, I like it" when I heard the loop, instead of just recognizing it in a good context - anyway, it fits in both tracks... Mine an Delta's (I hope ) So I guess I'm saying that everybody's sheite stink, so why care so deeply...? .oO Andreas Oo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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